Sony VS. Sony...PS3 delay

[ECA]

http://1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3148763

Today, Sony officially conceded defeat to the recent flurry of rumors and speculation, with Japanese newspaper Nihon Keizai Shimbun reporting the machine has been pushed back until November.

There aren't many details out right now, but Sony says issues over the finalization of copy protection technology related to their Blu-ray disc drive is the cause of the delay.

A few reasons for this I can see...
Holiday release...as ALWAYS..
Sony Music is PISSED and wants more protection.
MAYBE, a hardware makeover...

[jtfields]

A few reasons for this I can see...

Or maybe it's exactly what they said "issues over the finalization of copy protection technology related to their Blu-ray disc drive".

They lose money and ground to Microsoft eveyday it's delayed so I'm sure they want to get it on the shelves ASAP.

[ECA]

The Wednesday morning edition of the Nihon Keizai Shimbun reports that PlayStation 3 has been delayed until "early November" because the copy protection technology for the Blu-ray Disc has not yet been finalised.

The "November" date presumably refers to the console's Japanese release. If confirmed, it would almost certainly mean that the console's European release would not take place until 2007.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=63258

AND whom would be complaining the MOST?? Sony music..Sony Video...And all the companies SONY owns..

I dont think YOU would complain if you could copy most ANYTHINg with it..
And OTHER companies have little say in the matter.
BUT, Sony is MANY diff companies, and 1 SIDE has alot of say, in the end.

[jtfields]

AND whom would be complaining the MOST?? Sony music..Sony Video...And all the companies SONY owns..

I know. I've said all along Sony's biggest problem is that it has too many internal conflicts of interest. When it comes to copy protection it has too many different companies or divisions tugging both ways on the ship. It's basically brought them to a standstill. A company that once could be relied upon to introduce the "wow" product in so many market segments can hardly get anything out the doors these days much less something innovative.

[ECA]

AND, by next year...
the Xbox MAY, be finally shipping and hitting the market REAL well.
AS well as nentendo will have their machine out ALSO..
This could be a shot in the foot of Sony, AGAIN..

coming in 2nd in a 3 horse race isnt to bad, but coming IN 3rd...???
Its going to hurt their sales..
Those that only want 1 machine, or cant afford more then 1..wont BUY it...even if its the best one out there.
AND they havent set a price point yet..

[Ioman]

I don't think its copy protection actually because you should be seeing Blu-Ray players hitting the market before the PS3. My guess is that its cost or manufacturing related. Look at the Xbox 360, Microsoft screwed the pooch because they could not meet demand and had quality control issues. Sony is expected to lose about $700+ per PS3 sold. Imagine losing that much money and THEN having quality control issues on top of that.

If it is copy protection related then Sony sort of screwed themselves. I posted this in another thread:

Sony Will NOT Downconvert HD Movies On Old HDTV's

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/ar...article_id=1324



In an important aside, Don Eklund, SPHE's senior vice president for advanced technologies, said that Sony's initial Blu-ray discs — and all of its Blu-ray titles for the forseeable future — will be free of the "Image Constraint Token" that's built into the Blu-ray and HD DVD standards. This controversial digital flag instructs the player to down-res the video signal from its analog component-video outputs to a standard-definition image to prevent high-resolution recordings — but at the same time prevents viewing of HDTV images on any TV or device not equipped with a copyright-protected HDMI digital input. That would eliminate any gain in image quality for HDTV early-adopters who bought displays prior to two or three years ago, when DVI and HDMI digital inputs were introduced.

Eklund noted that Sony's key piracy concern isn't with analog HDTV signals but with the digital HDTV signal coming off the disc, which both Blu-ray and HD DVD are protecting with the robust Advanced Access Content System (AACS) endorsed by the Hollywood studios. If analog copying does become a problem down the road, the policy could change, he said — but for now, "we have no plan to implement the Image Constraint Token. All of Sony's titles will come out of the analog output at full definition." He added that other studios still have the discretion to activate the token for all or individual titles.

I am willing to bet that the PS3 division had a huge say in this.

[Ioman]

Why is this a sticky?

Unstick

:)

[ECA]

Awww,

Its abit of major news.

But, as to copy protection..
Copy protect what??

Look at the list...
Blu ray, movies..
Games..ONLY in their format...
Install their DRM..So NOTHING with their DRM is copy-able
MP3 audio encription, so you cant dub it off..
AS you mentioned, they wont DOWN grade movies for Analog HD..
ALSO probably they will set the Blu-ray up to destroy itself, IF removed.. Or install the HArdware controll on the mobo, so you cant remove the drive.

This thing may be worse then the XBOX protection...