Record Companies Allied With The War Machine

[BadEthics]

http://www.justablip.co.uk/index.php?body=dodge

AOL, Sony, BMG, Vivendi are all llisted as having "interests" in companies that deal with the US war making efforts. Something that everyone should be aware of, before you go out and buy music.

[Archon]

so? the companies have branches which happen to work in the defense industry. Rather successful businesses that they run. Remember, that just because the company that a company of a company that AOL-Time-Warner owns, makes bombs. It doesnt mean that AOL-Time-Warner's owned company of Atlantic implants subliminal pro-war messaging in their songs. Or that if a seperate owned company does well, that the company that owns the company that owns the company that makes the bombs, does well too.

[BadEthics]

LOL - Whatever Archon, not what I meant by it at all. I am sure there are plenty of war mongers like yourself that see nothing wrong with companies helping to build devices that kill people. Those people will be glad to hear the news that the media companies have branched out, but to everyone else, they might think twice about donating their money to support companies with such ethical policies as those whom are listed on the webpage.

[Cloud]

BYE, did you guys know that Vivendi owns Blizzard software....I guess no Warcraft games for you eh bad ethics!?:D

[BadEthics]

It sure is hard to get around the big conglomerates. At least I work hard to make people aware of their errors.

[Archon]

uhh.. this is the silliest thread I have ever read. Perhaps we should just stop buying mcdonalds, because afterall, McDonalds puts their french fries in cardboard holders, which are made from paper, which is cut down from trees, which, once cut down, the land can then have a genderal dynamics manifacuring facility built on it to make tanks.

Therefore, McDonalds is a war loving and peace hating company.


:rolleyes:

[RageSlave]

Originally posted by Archon
uhh.. this is the silliest thread I have ever read. Perhaps we should just stop buying mcdonalds, because afterall, McDonalds puts their french fries in cardboard holders, which are made from paper, which is cut down from trees, which, once cut down, the land can then have a genderal dynamics manifacuring facility built on it to make tanks.

Therefore, McDonalds is a war loving and peace hating company.


:rolleyes:

Archon, you are an A$$ for always attacking people from different points of view. And you wonder why you don't have mad mod skilz! LOL!

[dang]

Hmm. I dont like to get into politics, but I must say that the human race is not a peaceful being. Humans have always battled for control of things, be it battling for mating rights, battling for food, battling for land or religion.

It is not going to go away, there will always be violence and always the potential for war.

If one is not prepared for handling aggression against oneself, then you will die when someone decides to violate you.

I think it's illogical to think that peace will exist without somebody out there hating someone else and willing to go and kill them.

With that said, Boeing makes airplanes. These airplanes tons of people travel on everyday in peaceful matters, going from one destination to another. Boeing also makes military aircraft, missiles, and other technology that is used in war machines. To me this does not make Boeing bad. They are providing a service that someone else would provide if they didnt.

It's like the old saying, a gun doesn't kill people. People kill people. A gun by itself does not kill anyone. It takes a human behind that gun to pull the trigger. Same thing about weapons used in war. There is someone in high command ordering people to fight.

Back in the stone age it was with rocks and wood. Although I guess rocks and wood could technically kill people w/out another person being behind it, for example when a lose rock falls from a cliff or tree a falls over due to rot.

[Archon]

Originally posted by RageSlave


Archon, you are an A$$ for always attacking people from different points of view. And you wonder why you don't have mad mod skilz! LOL!

I respect other people's opinion, but this guy doesnt have one. He is just pullin stuff out of his a..hat...

An opinion would be "war is bad"

okay, why?

"because it kills people"

good reason.

Saying that the music industry is evil (which is a given), but is evil because it supports the war, man, thats just stupid.

It's like the old saying, a gun doesn't kill people. People kill people.

exactly! similar to my other saying. Guns dont kill dinosaurs, asteroids kill dinosaurs.

[pdxflyboy]

Originally posted by BadEthics
LOL - Whatever Archon, not what I meant by it at all. I am sure there are plenty of war mongers like yourself that see nothing wrong with companies helping to build devices that kill people. Those people will be glad to hear the news that the media companies have branched out, but to everyone else, they might think twice about donating their money to support companies with such ethical policies as those whom are listed on the webpage.

omg you make me sick, what type of world do YOU live in?
I suppose we should lay down our arms like the Romans?

[BadEthics]

My goal was to make people aware not to get into a big debate about war, but what the hell at least people are expressing their views. I know the real cause behind war and why it has happened in the past. I don't want to be one to go through life blissfully unaware of all that is happening around me.

Boeing isn't going to be making airplanes as they are now for much longer, since we are going to run out of gas in the next 50 years or so. There are so many countries that we can make excuses up about to invade so we can "liberate" them from their oil. There are only so many protected wildlife habitats that we can ruin by laying gas pipes and drilling wells. Why destroy everything so that our current way of life can remain constant? Are people so afraid of change? I think that may be one thing holding us back. Certainly good leadership with the right vision couldn't hurt.

Music is an expression of our culture. How the music is created and who influences artists say a great deal about how our society works. Things need to change at a core level before we are able to express ourselves truely.

[BadEthics]

It is my view and many others that war should only be sought for defensive measures. Now we make up reasons like "if we dont' get more oil than prices will go up and the our economy will never recover." This is wrong! It is a temporary solution that will not last long, a thinly veiled offensive manuever that distracts us from the real problem.

[Archon]

Im not even gonna get invovled in the "the war is for oil" discussion.

I bet the music industry killed JFK too.... hey, thats not a bad idea... ;)

and FYI, BadEthics, these people like Boeing and Lockeed Martin will not be going out of business (although right now, I dunno.. aieee), because they will run out of oil. That is just stupid. if anyone, it would be these people helping out to find an alternative when the crisis arrives.


There are only so many protected wildlife habitats that we can ruin by laying gas pipes and drilling wells.

Yeah, Iraq is a desert. I have a few thousand miles of desert you can keep as a protected wildlife habitat.

Why destroy everything so that our current way of life can remain constant? Are people so afraid of change?

Uh, we didnt destroy anything.

Music is an expression of our culture. How the music is created and who influences artists say a great deal about how our society works. Things need to change at a core level before we are able to express ourselves truely.

Are you implying that the Music Industry forces artists to sing pro-war or pro-mcdonalds songs, driving corporate america and an evil tyrannical government? ;)

It is my view and many others that war should only be sought for defensive measures. Now we make up reasons like "if we dont' get more oil than prices will go up and the our economy will never recover." This is wrong! It is a temporary solution that will not last long, a thinly veiled offensive manuever that distracts us from the real problem.

are you still going on about the gdamn oil?