Is the new G5 benchmarks a scam?

[Ioman]

http://www.haxial.com/spls-soapbox/apple-powermac-G5/

Thoughts?

[vladmin]

Yeah. Uh... I don't think he was thorough enough in his explanation.

Doesn't surprise me though. This kind of stuff goes on all the time. This is the USA you know so 'buyer beware' and 'don't beleive the hype' and whatever. The bottom line for me has always been that benchmarks are not very important in representing the total value (including performance) of hardware. The most important factor is actually using the machine and what myself and my peers think of it once it is put to work; as well as how supportive the market is towards what I use it for... so benchmarks never meant anything to me and 90% of everyone involved in marketing is not a nice person.

[Ioman]

I don't think Apple is any different than any other computer manufacturer. I am not reading much into their benchmarks or that guys explanation of them. The hardware specs should speak for themselves. Its a mute point anyways as any hardware will be faster than what I currently have lol.

[vladmin]

Trudging through the hate mail, which is entertaining, and reading Apple's Joswiak's response to these allegations it just does not make sense to me why they would do certain things differently for the G5 tests then on the Intel tests.

From Slashdot:

Joswiak added that in the Intel modifications for the tests, they chose the option that provided higher scores for the Intel machine, not lower. The scores were higher under Linux than under Windows, and in the rate test, the scores were higher with hyperthreading disabled than enabled. He also said they would be happy to do the tests on Windows and with hyperthreading enabled, if people wanted it, as it would only make the G5 look better.

Something just doesn't seem right. Why not run the same tests across all platforms. Would'nt you want to make the G5 look better?

Whatever though, that's enough article for me right now. I'm surprised noone mentioned that G5's definately look faster than P4's.

[ECA]

Want my 2 cents...
HERE.


THE"Y USED DELLS...... YUCK.
At least use Gigabyte or Asus.

[Archon]

Heres my take:

The G5 might be fast, but it is useless to me.

[ECA]

Originally posted by Archon
Heres my take:

The G5 might be fast, but it is useless to me.

REALLY, I wont touch that comment.

Down ed down, Close your mouth....
Shut up mind... Dont think that way.

[chuck]

Originally posted by Archon
Heres my take:

The G5 might be fast, but it is useless to me.

Exactly what I was thinking.

[Ioman]

The most powerful Solitaire machine in the world!?

[Santaduck]

I remember seeing a freon-cooled CRAY-2 (think small clear box of blue liquid with blinking lights and black tubes coming ou tof it) in the 80's. It's pretty humbling that these high end PCs today are roughly equivalent.

I want a desktop yokohoma weather supercomputer on my desktop in 10 yrs :o

[llbbl]

Computer Approx Price Range
Dell Dimension 8300 $800 - $2500
Dell Precision 650 $1248 - $3680
Apple PowerMac G5 $2000 - $3000


You can get Precision 650's for much more than 3600. We are looking at systems to do video editing that are more than double that price.


I would like to end on a positive note by saying that there are many great things about Macs. The price-to-speed ratio of Macs is not one of those great things, but just because it is poor on that particular point, that does not mean that everything about it is poor. Macs excel in other areas. Speed is not everything.


Oooo they can open large images in photoshop 10 micro seconds faster than PC's can, who gives a rats ass cause they don't support the majority of computer games on the market! That and I still preffer two button control.

The real advantage is having a UNIX command line underneath a nice GUI. Apple excels in two areas, marketing and product design.

People buy MAC's because they don't need to run the programs that are PC only. If they do gaming then it is probably console only or not at all. No hardcore gamers use MAC's as their main system. They might purchase one to "fit in" when they visit their local Starbucks.. LOL

[llbbl]

Also I would be interested to see a more in-depth comparison on the AMD 64 chip.

http://forums.designtechnica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3913

Sorry for rezzurecting the thread ... I found it interesting !!