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What would make my day.
would be a text only Email prog...drop the HTML, Perl, and all the rest.
My friends dont send Anything but text msgs. And anything I really read is text. I dont need the pics, I dont need them grabbing data from the email just to display. Dont need them knowing that I am reading there email, from my mail grabbing data, from there site.
Just TXT formats....
llbbl
09-09-2002, 05:19 PM
"Dont need them knowing that I am reading there email, from my mail grabbing data, from there site."
How do you know that they are doing this unless you are clicking on a link in the html email ?
You can always request that your "friends" send you only txt email, that is unless your "friends" are spammers.
VIN,
When HTML mail is sent to you, it goes to an address to get the graphics... That address then KNOWS that you have gathered data from them, and has your Email address.
They then can send you MORE emails... Thats how SPAM works..
llbbl
09-10-2002, 03:14 PM
How do you know this are you a professional spammer? Maybe you work in the industry?
Just cause they have the IP address of some computer that access their picture files, doesn't mean that they can figure out what email it is attached too. Besides that is assuming that they can find your email when outlook accesses the net. Can't you just block outgoing port 80 for outlook? hmm .. Let me check to see if that is possible in ZoneAlarm
Damn Almost lost the text..... I should open a new mozilla window. Welll maybe not the forum is runnig php and that is good at remembering what you typed.
Links work fine. Outlook can not access web server ports. I block spam now.
But, are you getting ANY HTML, pics/graphics from your Email. IF NOT you have blocked it totally. NOW, the services that you do want mail from, that USE HTML, cant send youany pics/graphics EITHER..
Or if a friend sends you a SITE link, you WONT see the HTML..
llbbl
09-12-2002, 05:35 PM
Links work fine. They open in a Mozillia without any problems. This is because I am blocking only port 80 for outlook and not for Zilla. Understand why this works?
I am still not sure that I believe what you say. However, just to prove to you that what you described could be prevented using a firewall I went and confirmed that it is possible. I recieve NO pictures in my HTML email.
One good thing, is that it saves bandwidth. :)
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If you use eudora, you can set what type of view you want (txt/html/rich text) I think
Originally posted by vindisco
However, just to prove to you that what you described could be prevented using a firewall I went and confirmed that it is possible. I recieve NO pictures in my HTML email.
One good thing, is that it saves bandwidth. :)
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Ya aint it nice, you click the mail, and its THERE... Its not loading all this crap.
NOW if I can get a email prog that will ONLY load in Txt, richtxt, anything but HTML, or graphics..
Ioman
09-13-2002, 11:19 AM
I just looked in my Microsoft Outlook and I don't see where there is an option to convert all incoming e-mail to a text format. In fact the only changes I saw were that you could set it to automatically convert rich text to HTML when sending e-mail to internet address....and this was set to "On" as the default setting.
I do not like downloading HTML e-mail either, it slows down Outlook and is a pain in the but to delete sometimes because the message takes so long to load.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/27095.html
Be afraid, be very afraid..
Outlook takes to long to do anything. I kust want it txt formats and it would be nice if it used WIN address book, other wise we would have to REDO the whole thing..
Hmm..i just checked eudora and you can only turn on/off to allow executables in html.
However, Pine is an excellent text only mail client, but I am not sure if they make it for x86.
Ioman
09-13-2002, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by dang
Hmm..i just checked eudora and you can only turn on/off to allow executables in html.
However, Pine is an excellent text only mail client, but I am not sure if they make it for x86.
I used to telnet into Pine when I was at the Univeristy of Oregon. Does that work? Pine was not installe don my computer though,
llbbl
09-16-2002, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by ECA
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/27095.html
Be afraid, be very afraid..
Outlook takes to long to do anything. I kust want it txt formats and it would be nice if it used WIN address book, other wise we would have to REDO the whole thing..
There you go spreading fear for no reason. I read the response from securiTeam.com and I am not worried in the slightest.
http://www.securiteam.com/securitynews/5YP0A0K8CM.html
Norton AntiVirus is only like 10 bucks / yr for updates. Well worth the investment, for the best AV out there!
llbbl
09-16-2002, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by dang
Hmm..i just checked eudora and you can only turn on/off to allow executables in html.
However, Pine is an excellent text only mail client, but I am not sure if they make it for x86.
You guys are going to A LOT of TROUBLE just to block HTML. We don't even know what ECA described is true. I wouldn't worry about it TOO much.
Heck, you can always do what I described above by changing permissions for your email program in your firewall. With a software firewall it is easy to do this. I am not sure how you would have to do it if yOU had a router to worry about.
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,104910,00.asp
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/27095.html
I see your article and Raise you 2...
You would think after 7 years they could get it right...
And with NEW virus's defeating AV programs(that s why you get updates) This would Solve most of the problems..
llbbl
09-17-2002, 03:00 PM
Cross frame scripting sounds pretty dangerous.
Cross-frame scripting is intended to make it easy to pass information back and forth to different parts of a Web page. But the function also makes it possible for attackers, once IE loads their Web page, to use JavaScript to change the URL displayed in one Web page subframe (or "child") to match that of the main Web page ("parent"), circumventing security rules that prohibit free interaction among frames displaying different domains. Once in control of the parent frame, the attackers could replace that frame's URL with a new script that lets them read information from cookies and other files containing a user's personal information.
nice of them to explain how to do it for us :)
REALLY...
MS doesnt want Windows working with anyother environmets.
Why would windows let anything ELSE run/popup when its doing its security checks.. Unless MS wants to do something with the data themselves..
They may have wanted a back door, and it was discovered.
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