'Do not call' list blocked by court

[Ioman]

http://money.cnn.com/2003/09/24/technology/do_not_call.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes

A U.S. court in Oklahoma has blocked the national "do not call" list that would allow consumers to stop most unwanted telephone sales calls, a group representing telemarketers said Wednesday.


Umm this is a bunch of crap if you ask me.

[ECA]

Cant get there from here... check your link.

And I agree.

[Jebus]

try this:
http://money.cnn.com/2003/09/24/technology/ftc_donotcall/index.htm

[Archon]

mother fckures

[ECA]

There is something you can do tho, and it works.
When someone calls you from a company, request to speak to there manager. Request that you be removed from ALL call lists and that ANY call from that company will result in a CHARGE to said company.
Keep a list with Dates of there last call.
IF a call come to you again from said company, send them a BILL. REALLY.
If not paid take it to court and you WILL collect. Around $500 per call.
THEY WONT call again.
Your phone is considered a Private line. And you can sue for trespass also.

[Unregistered]

I understand that many people don't want unsolicited calls but try to remember that telemarketers are people too. They also have children to feed and bills to pay. If you don't want someone to call you simply and politely ask the telemarketer to add you to their do not call list. As a telemarketer for a nonprofit organization i have encountered some of the nicest people on earth but more often the rudest. By the way screening your calls with your answer machine only causes the phone to ring again at another time. I think the best comment i have received from a customer about the do not call list is that the reason he is not on it is because he does not want to be responsible for the loss of millions of jobs for people who need them. In the long run the do not call list will cost taxpayers more money than whatever it is a telemarketer happens to be selling. Think of all the people who will be out of work. In today's economy there are more people in this country than there are jobs available. Welfare comes from taxpayer's pockets. Keep that in mind when you sign up for the do not call list.

A Single mother & telemarketer

[ECA]

Unreg.
NOT quite true. The average of tele sales is 1 for 10/100 calls.
And taking 2million people calling ALL day long away from the phone lines will improve the quality of phone calls.
And if you REALLy want a job, Im sure I can get you one out here on one of the dairies(8-$10 an hour).
I wont go into calling Old ladies or those disabilied, that cant afford it and all you are doing is taking up TIME, or money they cant afford from a good sob story.
AND 90% of charitable phone calls only give <10% of what they make to the charity.

[Unregistered]

If you can a true statistic from the police departments a good sob that is your choice. If people can't afford something or are disabled then they say so and that is that. My company does not make that much off of the nonprofit organization which in this case in MADD, other offices that call for things other than that supply the revenues for our company. Most of the money we get from our program goes to pay for the product and the rest goes to MADD. But then if you are against people trying to get money for an organization that is trying to prevent someone getting killed every thirty minutes at the hands of an idiot that is your choice.
As for your job offer I would not move to Idaho for all the money in the world and I doubt dairy work schedules would fit around my college schedule.

[ECA]

I have to ask.
REG do you OWN the company??
If not heres how it goes.

1. you are NOT paid by MADD, why would a NonProfit PAY you, they aint got the money.
2. you have a product you NEED to sell.
3. you sell it, PAY for the purchase, pay for the people calling others, then 10% goes to the MADD, and the rest into into pocket.
4. Do you know your profit margin.

What are you selling, light bulbs? by Fiet? Good bulbs, and they sell for $6 for 24.
Go look for your product on the shelf. Consider that markup is, at least 1/3-1/2 of price. A smart company AINT going to buy resale and try to sell that, they will get WHOLESALE.

UNLESS MADD made this company to sell this products.

Girl Scout cookies. Cost $3
I can get them at the store for $2
The dollor they earn is ALL they get.
the company that sells the cookies to the GS. Buys them at less than $1.
I dont consider this CHARITABLE.
they double there money, and have KIDS sell them.

[dang]

this can turn nasty, but let me say this. I never, ever have bought something over the phone, nor contributed to a cause over the phone. There are way too many scammers. I also HATE being solicited on the phone. Think of it this way.

If I put a "No Soliciting" sign on my property, then if someone comes onto my property I can call the police and have them arrested for trespass. I pay for my phone, but there was (note WAS) no way for me to do the same thing. With the do-not call list, it enables me to have something similar. And guess what? Then I'm happy. The key here is the do-not-call list is a voluntary sign-up. By people who do not want to get solicited. I dont see how this is going to effect you in any big way, other then the fact that your ratio of getting people to buy your product will most likely go up now. Sure, their call list will shrink, but their sales should increase. some people will lose their jobs because they dont need as many people, but the companies should make more $$. So, then the company should be happy, right? Wouldnt you be happy that MADD may then get more $$?

Side note, I've had some pretty damn rude telemarketers. For example, me telling them I'm not interested and them getting mad because I didnt listen to what they are selling. Give me a break. I also love the line where they try to say an agreement real fast mixed in with verifying your address and phoneand then say "Do you agree to the what I just said?" trying to trick you into agreeing you'll sign up.

Those folks are the scum of the barrel. They are most likely people not trying to get donations for non-profits. In fact, I'd say i get maybe 2 calls a year for non-profits. I'd rather just give my money in person to the actual non-profit, not make some guy/company rich off of fronting a non-profit.

[v8juice]

I do it this way, I have an answering machine with the ringer turned off. When someone calls & I'm not interested in their message, I smile...

[ECA]

My one concern is that they call anonomous. I cant get there/a phone numer to the people calling me. This so that I can complain/cancell who is calling me. *69 dont work and neither does Caller ID. And the operator cant trace it either.
YEP, Iv tried.

NOW, if someone would put up a list of all soliciting companys and let me EMAIL them my Objection to being called, I would EMAIl the whole list. that would be cool.

[Unregistered]

LOL Hey Guys Check this out about the do not call list

http://leewest.cybersabotage.com/

[Unregistered]

There is a new law, i am not sure when it is supposed to go into affect, that requires telemarketing companies to be indentifiable on caller id. The company I work for has been in compliance with this law since june. We have an ANI system that displays our company number and name on the caller id systems so at least this is a step in the right direction. Now people do have the choice to answer or not. However not answering just makes the companies call again later. The best thing to do in that situation is to ask the caller to remove you from their list. By law and by our company policy we have to.

[Ioman]

Originally posted by Unregistered
There is a new law, i am not sure when it is supposed to go into affect, that requires telemarketing companies to be indentifiable on caller id. The company I work for has been in compliance with this law since june. We have an ANI system that displays our company number and name on the caller id systems so at least this is a step in the right direction. Now people do have the choice to answer or not. However not answering just makes the companies call again later. The best thing to do in that situation is to ask the caller to remove you from their list. By law and by our company policy we have to.

Thanks for the tip. Do you know where telemarketing companies purchase these "lists" of names from? I would like to go to the source and ask them to delete my name.

[ECA]

banks, insurrance agencys, telephine companies, and there is 3 other scources that collect those and group them to be sold.

[Unregistered]

I know that there is a list that our company uses but the only thing I know about it is that it is called the Donnelly list. It comes from a reverse lookup company.
Even I have asked to be removed from a list, so I will tell you now that not all companies have the same professional policy as the one I work for does. We have a scripted professional response to say when someone asks to be delisted. Basically our response is to tell the person we will now make arrangements to remove them, confirm their phone number and to say please excuse the call, reidentify our company and say have a good night/day. Many companies are not professional and will be rude or hang up but they still have to delist you.

[Archon]

I just dont answer calls which are unavailable on caller ID.

[ECA]

But, I aint paying $70+ dollars ayear to see if they dont Identify themselves.