Cyberpower PC Laptop..... how is it?

[srika]

Looking for any inputs on CyberpowerPC's laptop and also the company in general..... Any thoughts?

http://www.cyberpowersystem.com/highendsystem/ntbkx56000.asp?v=d#configurator_top

thanks in advance

srika

[Ioman]

hmm, I have not been able to find any reviews of this laptop on the net and I don't recognize the manufacturer (I am sure Cyberpower doesn't make their own laptops). I like the look and design of it from what I can tell.

I found them on reseller ratings: http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2120.html

Looks like an overall score of 7/10

I could not find them on Bizrate for some reason though.

[ECA]

I would suggest the PRO version of windows, either 2000 or XP.
Add the NETGEAR router..
And the CAR inverter...

[llbbl]

http://www.cyberpowersystem.com/highendsystem/ntbkx648000.asp?v=d

Get the AMD version! Seems like a good company although I haven't heard of them before.

Definatly not a bogus site if they list their address an stuff.

Cyberpower Inc.

4802 Little John St.

Baldwin Park, CA 91706



Sales: (800)707-0393 Email: cyberpower@cyberpowersystem.com

Sales Hours: Monday - Friday 8:30 A.M. - 6:00 P.M. PST. Saturday: 9:30 A.M. - 3:00 P.M. PST

Fax: (626)813-3810

Customer Service and Technical Support: 877-876-4965 Email: techsupport@cyberpowersystem.com

Customer Service Hours: Monday - Friday 8:30 A.M. - 5:30 P.M. PST.

[srika]

thanks guys

I have actually ordered a desktop from them 2 years ago, and its been great, no problems. I just wasn't sure how their laptops were. I think most likely, I will order from them. I'll let you guys know how it goes!

srika

[srika]

guys I just noticed its 1280x800 - I was really looking for 1920x1200 - other than Dell, do you guys know of any other nice laptops that have that resolution in at least 15.4" ?

thanks again

srika

[srika]

Looks like you can get the Compaq X1000 with 1920x1200 15.4" - however I am not pleased with it because you can only get a max of 5400rpm HD... back to square one :<

[ECA]

I have to ASK:
WHY??? do you need such a HIGH RES.
Laptops are NOT know for this except for video display to another scource.
That alone will take upto 36,864,000 just fror your display background at 16 bit color, forget 32 bit.
Even a 64meg video card is going to hate you.

[srika]

I do a lot ot audio programming and production that requires insane resolutions and definitely the wider, the better - so the 1920 pixel width will really be beneficial. I will be getting one of the Radeon 128mb cards combined with very fast CPU so I think that combination will yield strong graphic performance.

I've seen the Dell 8600 running at 1920x1200 before, its not so bad... :)

ps. also, its cool. :)

srika

[ECA]

There are FEW 128meg laptops...
Its nice, but 1024 is also good, and 99% of progs dont need much over 800x600.
at 1025 you only use up 16+ megs, and leave the CPU to do its job with lots of room on the video card. AND you get a bigger display to SEE and you may be able to SLIT the screen to another TFT then and have MORE fun.

[srika]

that's a valid and good point - also for me I am slightly infatuated with the idea of having the HD quality resolution (1920x1200) - so that's a part of my fascination... :)

So are these laptops running 1920x1200 slow or something? I mean are you telling me, a P4M-1.7 with 1GB of RAM, Radeon 128MB and running 1920x1200 will be slow? If just for comparison's sake, how much slower than say, a laptop running 1280x800 or so? Can you give a figure in terms of percentage slower?

thanks

srika

[ECA]

Let me do it this way.
Every thing you being up has its own window. each window takes up video ram.
Win WORD.
for each undo to go back to undo an error, takes 1 PAGE the same size as your display, the same size. 1st page is 36 megs of video, 1st undo page is the same, 2nd undo is the same..3 pages at 36 megs= 108 megs.
After filling the video buffer, it takes HD ram... at 10 for 1. For every 1 meg it takes 10 mags on the HD to store. Hd is 100x's slower then your video ram. And this slows your machine.

rather have a 1024 video with a second display. Make it continous, so you can use both as 1 display. Thats equal to 2048x display and takes the same amout of ram as your 1920x.
You can use one display for 1 prog and the second for another.
REALLY impress your friend. You want the DVI(?) output for another LCD.

[srika]

sorry, but your post doesn't really make sense. especially what you are saying about undo... undo in what? If you are talking about graphics programs like Photoshop, I can see how it might be applicable (but still an undo step in Photoshop or other graphics programs does not capture the ENTIRE SCREEN, rather a "step" - and actually it consists of nothing more than digital information, so its not as immense and memory-hungry as you're making it out to be - and also, all undo buffers are adjustable in a decent program, but I know you know this :)) - but in music programs or other Windows programs, undo doesn't work the way you say it does. What application are you talking about? Becuase it sounds to me like you're saying that hitting undo refers back to a stored version of the ENTIRE CONTENTS OF THE SCREEN - which is not true. Please clarify for me, maybe I'm not understanding you.

And, two displays would not help me with my audio applications (what friend are you talking about?? this is for me, I'm not trying to impress anyone) - I need to see everything on ONE screen, not 2. It would be annoying to have to shift my head to work on a different part of a song, at least have to shift my head more than I would have to if I had one 15.4" screen... but, a DVI output would be nice, and I would probably find some use for it :)

If I've misunderstood you somewhere, let me know, my apologies in advance.

srika

[ECA]

Win word does it like this, try it.

also there is a Native mode in windows.. And I think its STILL bmp for graphics.
even with photoshop. windows keeps its background, as well as the pic you loaded, as well as the windows opened under photoshop in video ram. Win XP display, in high res, 32 meg, then photo shop and 1 undo is going to take about 64 megs.

With the double display, you can have pics, audio based graphics, equalizer, what ever on the second screen, and be doing work on the other.

I would like to ask tho, why you want it as a laptop?
It dont sound like you will be moving around alot with it once you start a setup to do music reproduction.
a portable mught be nicer and you could change the configuration easier and it would be cheaper.

[srika]

Originally posted by ECA
Win word does it like this, try it.

also there is a Native mode in windows.. And I think its STILL bmp for graphics.
even with photoshop. windows keeps its background, as well as the pic you loaded, as well as the windows opened under photoshop in video ram. Win XP display, in high res, 32 meg, then photo shop and 1 undo is going to take about 64 megs.

With the double display, you can have pics, audio based graphics, equalizer, what ever on the second screen, and be doing work on the other.

I would like to ask tho, why you want it as a laptop?
It dont sound like you will be moving around alot with it once you start a setup to do music reproduction.
a portable mught be nicer and you could change the configuration easier and it would be cheaper.

Still don't know what you mean by the graphics thing in Windows. If you do an Alt-PrtScr, it does save it into the clipboard memory as a huge BMP file. But in Word? Are you saying Word is constantly saving BMP images to its undo buffers, as you're working? I don't know.

I agree double display has many advantages, and I do like that.

I need a laptop to replace my current one - I make a lot of music on the road and its thusly the laptop is one of my most important tools. I already have a desktop machine at home that is dedicated to music making, that has pro-quality audio hardware and software (Midiman Delta-66 audio interface, and the rest of my studio hardwares built into a Digital Audio Workstation (DAW) setup, so that's already taken care of. I do all my final mixdowns and editing on this machine, not the laptop. Lately I have been using more and more effects and things with the audio production that have really started to slow my current laptop down - and this is a Dell P4-1.7GHz, 512mb, 32mb video, 15" 40gb) - and I've thusly started feeling the actual NEED to upgrade it.

srika

[ECA]

Here is my consideration:
IF you are generally within reach of a power plug, and you are not on the road, car, bus, train, ect, using your unit.
Then a portable may be a better solution, as you can add extra HD, or even set up a swap drive, DVD RW, card slot transfers.
IF a better sound card comes out, you can upgrade.
If a better Graphics card comes out you can upgrade.
Networking it is simple, as you can add a standard network card, and wireless at the same time.
Need a new monitor, get one, even 2. Want a BIGGER monitor, get one, want to USE a monitor ON SITE, just plug in.
Midi, simple.
Audio output up to 7+1... Might have to make cables but what a way to mix.
Want a NEW bigger HD go for it.
want MORe ram, its not limited to 1gig, I think its 4 gig on some.

NOw the hard part, .carry a box(the portable), a pack with 2 LCD, KB and a mouse, and any cable you want/need.
No worse then me on a bike with my C64, Ext floppy, power supply, and cables.

[srika]

haha on the C64 comment...... well its a good suggestion..... but it won't work on the train, on my way to work....... :)

srika

[ECA]

Ok, that solved.
IF you can find the option I would suggest the MOST ram you can get... MORe then other options. Then Video. esp if all you are doing is audio production.
Let me look around....
Do you have a reasonable price range, or do you want the Monster.

[srika]

Originally posted by ECA
Ok, that solved.
IF you can find the option I would suggest the MOST ram you can get... MORe then other options. Then Video. esp if all you are doing is audio production.
Let me look around....
Do you have a reasonable price range, or do you want the Monster.

wow this is way more help than I would have expected or assumed.... thanks. my price range is $1500-2000... I think the Dell would set me back about $2500 though..... so I guess I could say $1500-2500.......

thanks guy.

srika

[srika]

oh yeah for audio production on laptop, the only sound card I have in mind is this one (http://www.echoaudio.com/Products/IndigoIO/index.php). I think its only like $99 or even less.

srika

[ECA]

http://compreviews.about.com/cs/laptops/tp/aatpdeskreplace.htm#b

http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux-laptop-lc2430.html
Very nice tho it is linux certified. 2 gig, 64 meg Vram, 1400x1050LCD

http://www.totallogicsecurity.com/index2.asp
GREAT PROG for laptop.

http://www.premiergent.co.uk/pages/notebooks/PowermasterNotebooksmenu.asp
I dont know these guys, and hope they have a US scourse, but they have 2 of interesting ability. 1 is 17" and the other is ...jujst look at the links....
http://www.premiergent.co.uk/pages/notebooks/ListingDetails.asp?ProductIDCode=PREMPM30DVDRW4000
http://www.premiergent.co.uk/pages/notebooks/ListingDetails.asp?ProductIDCode=FORD470WP430DVDR

[ECA]

Could i suggest the Audiology USB?? By creative labs...

[srika]

Do you mean Audigy?

[ECA]

ya,

[srika]

I already have an Audigy 24/96 card in my comp (both actually) - which I use for basic audio output (mp3's, games, etc) - when I am recording, I use the Delta-66 for studio quality recording, reproduction and playback.

thanks again for your help in this matter.

srika

[Thrillryder23]

sorry I didn't really read the other posts on the thread.

You can also buy that laptop at Ibuypower.com

They give you a bit more options there. It is a voodoo envy M:855 and I have been doing some good research on this laptop. I am huge with AMD and I really want this laptop and I have not come across 2 bad review on this laptop yet. It seems almost perfect. Except it is about 8 pounds but that really isn't a problem for laptop users like me.