View Full Version : Outsourcing Doubled Nationwide in Past Four Years
Ioman
10-22-2004, 09:31 AM
The Congressional report said the jobs that left the country were disproportionately unionized, even considering that manufacturing has a higher share of union jobs. That "means that the jobs leaving the U.S. are more likely to be good jobs, with full health care and pension plans, making the costs of those production shifts to workers and communities even higher," the report said.
http://www.crmbuyer.com/story/37501.html
llbbl
10-22-2004, 10:36 AM
More misleading claims about the true impact of outsourcing on the economy.
Ioman
10-22-2004, 11:43 AM
More misleading claims about the true impact of outsourcing on the economy.
I think you are full of **** personally. :)
Most of the jobs that went to Mexico were unionized.
Thats the KEY wording... THEY WERE good jobs. And they WERE Union.
They are wording it Wrong, in my thinking...
The Jobs leaving, Are NOT going to be Unionized, and WONT have the Benefits that were EARNED here.
He said Mexican workers at Delphi make about $3.75 hourly, but that's not the only motivation for outsourcing. The tax code rewards U.S. multinational corporations with jobs abroad because foreign profits aren't subject to income taxes. The report found 72 percent of the job loss was at U.S. multinationals.
Nafta, and that PARTS are not taxed as the WHOLE vehicle is.
llbbl
10-22-2004, 03:37 PM
I think you are full of **** personally. :)
Well its not liek the entire friggin country is going to loose their job to someone overseas. Jobs will be replaced. People will find other work.
If you consider only the IT sector for instance. You are always going to need US citizens to maintain networks, computer systems, build and install networks, do website development and programming. Now you might have a partial amount of some of those job functions outsourced, but never completely to an overseas company. You are always going to need US citizens to manage those US citizens as well as the foreign workers.
We lost a ton of manufacuring job years ago before the 90's bull market and that didn't prevent it from happening. Who cares if all of those low paying jobs leave anyways, there will always be plenty of low paying jobs taking care of rich people's assests.
That's why I say that Outsourcing shouldn't be a concern when we have bigger problems to worry about.
Manufacturing isnt LOW PAY....
Car making ISNT low PAY...
Networks can be run from ANY location with the internet, even without Internet. How you think International banking has been done for years, get a shortwave radio and listen to the packets SENT.
DELL, placed a customer service center in this AREA, FUNNY. I call DELL and get Malysia.. This center is for Corporate Customer service, so they can talk to a person WITH OUT an accent.
Have to ask,
What do you consider LOW pay??? Lss then $100k, 50k, 30k, 20k????
llbbl
10-25-2004, 01:11 PM
http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/02poverty.htm
2002 HHS Poverty Guidelines
Size of
Family Unit 48 Contiguous
States and D.C. Alaska Hawaii
1 $ 8,860 $11,080 $10,200
2 11,940 14,930 13,740
3 15,020 18,780 17,280
4 18,100 22,630 20,820
5 21,180 26,480 24,360
6 24,260 30,330 27,900
7 27,340 34,180 31,440
8 30,420 38,030 34,980
For each additional
person, add 3,080 3,850 3,540
SOURCE: Federal Register, Vol. 67, No. 31, February 14, 2002, pp. 6931-6933.
Somewhere between poverty level to 2-3 times poverty level is still Low Paying.
Manufacturing isnt LOW PAY....
Car making ISNT low PAY...
It is if you make it in a different country....
Yes I am also aware of the growing trend to outsource your entire customer service department to other countries. I don't see this as a problem. I don't see this as a reason to make a big stink about outsourcing. Its a newer trend of doing business that I am sure all the people who make these sort of decisions already know about and have discussed in their weekly meetings if they could benefit from outsourcing.
Can we find something more interesting to discuss please...
anf 60% of the Us makes Min wage or less.
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