PDA

View Full Version : Flash vs SVG


llbbl
12-07-2004, 08:05 AM
One is an open standard supported by WC3 based on XML.

One is a proprietary standard owned by a private company.

Which one do you think is an more suited to survive in the internet age? Both standards require special plugins to view them. Both standards do essentially the same thing, create vector graphics for the web.

If you didn't figure it out yet, the first one I described is SVG and the second is Flash. I think that Macromedia should be very worried at this point. Their standard is much more developed and supported, but that doesn't mean that they should totally dismiss SVG as a non competitor.

Look for future versions of Mozilla and Firefox to support SVG natively. That means you wouldn't need a plugin. Adobe has written the most popular plugin and have added SVG support into Illustrator, Go Live and FrameMaker. If Macromedia is smart they should be adding SVG into Flash, letting you export to that format from their program. I think you can already code SVG using Dreamweaver, although they don't mention this.

I am looking for Adobe to create a program like Flash MX that will let you design and program SVG elements. They say that you can use it with Go Live program, but I think what they really mean is that you can program SVG like you would an XML file. For SVG to really take over they need to create a Flash like program with a GUI that hides all the programming details in the background.

Currently they have FrameMaker, PageMaker and Indesign that all do the same sort of thing. They need to fuse these products into one big desktop publishing and professional layout program. If I were making the decisions I would nix PageMaker and FrameMaker by combinging them into Indesign. They say that FrameMaker can export in SVG, but they haven't really positioned this product as a Web Graphic production studio.

They need to take the strong points from Illustrator and Premiere and create a brand new product. This software would have a timeline and be able to do everything you can possibly imagine with SVG. That is if they expect to compete with Flash. They can't just sit around and expect everyone to adopt SVG because its an open standard.

I think they are biding their time until the right moment when they will unleash their new vision for motion web graphics. Watch out for SVG Macromedia, your fears will soon become real.

llbbl
12-07-2004, 08:15 AM
Is this long enough for a talk back?

llbbl
12-07-2004, 09:09 AM
http://www.kiyut.com/products/sketsa/index.html

What's new:

Add use element support.
Improved Selection Tool.
Improved Resource Editor.
Change Java Requirement from 1.4.1 to 1.4.2 or higher.
Change default Look and Feel to System Look and Feel.
Fix canvas size bug if width/height attribute in percentage.
Fix export with image element bug.
Fix DOM Editor DOM tree bug.
Fix Source Editor and Canvas Selection bug with CR/LF line break.
Other improvements and bug fixes.
Features:

SVG native file format
Property palette
DOM Editor
Source Editor
Resource Editor: gradient and filter
SVG specific shape tools rect, ellipse, line, polyline, polygon
Additional illustration tools: Pencil tool for freeform shape and Pen tool for curve shape
Transformation tool: rotate, skew, scale, and translate
Basic Text Tool
Export or rasterize to JPEG and PNG
Written entirely in Java(tm)

llbbl
12-07-2004, 09:12 AM
Create SVG for mobile phones.

http://www.ikivo.com/animator/

Ikivo Animator is an innovative software application that enables the design and deployment of professional, Mobile SVG content on mass-market mobile phones. It integrates seamlessly with the Adobe® Creative Suite, providing efficient, direct access to the mobile animation toolset from within the application. Integrated device previewing capabilities make this application unique!

Because Ikivo Animator has a similar look and feel to
today's leading design tools (such as Adobe® Illustrator®), users are
able to quickly and easily start using it to develop their own professional
Mobile SVG content.

llbbl
12-07-2004, 09:18 AM
See live flash like graphics that are updated via a RSS feed.

http://www.tomgroves.net/projects/svg/weather/index.php

Weather in your local area ...

llbbl
12-07-2004, 09:27 AM
Oh and in case you missed your opportunity .... NOAA changed their policy due to a /. thread..

During the period January 12 through June 30, 2004, NOAA sought and received 1473 comments on a proposed policy. Of these, 1190 supported the proposed policy, and 176 opposed it. In addition, 68 comments recommended the proposed policy be applied NOAA-wide. Commenters have helped to clarify the language of the policy and have made important contributions to its content. As described in more detail in the attached background, this policy responds to recommendations from the NRC study, incorporates applicable law and government-wide information policies, and responds to criticisms of the proposed policy.

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/partnershippolicy/

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/27/0216251&tid=103

That is the reason the RSS is available.