View Full Version : New Amiga hardware available!
Surprised ECA didn't pick up on this first, but they are now Shipping new Amiga hardware packing PPC G3 and G4 chips (up to 800 Mhz!)
OS4 will be available in the early part of 2003.
Check out this Article (http://www.eyetech.co.uk/amigaone/oct252002a.php) for more info.
LinkDJ
11-07-2002, 05:48 PM
No thanks, I hear a new version of MS-DOS is coming out soon.
Ioman
11-07-2002, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by LinkDJ
No thanks, I hear a new version of MS-DOS is coming out soon.
Word.
I am with stupid on this one. :D
LOL..this reminds me of the three stooges.
Only 15 years AFTER, it died.
I might wiat for the G5, its supposed to get 2ghz.
I wonder if you can Slot the 1.2 ghz g4 into it??? Hmmmm
PS, I would LOVE to get back to DOS based games... The POWER the speed and the graphics should be awesome.
Newsflash: This computer is an Amiga in name only. In reality, it's a PPC computer that happens to run an Amiga OS that bear some resemblance to the original OS. Virtually all old-school Amiga programs run in emulation mode, as the old Amiga uses the 680x0 CPU and maybe the 680x1 FPU co-processor.
The old Amiga was incredibly powerful for its days because it has custom dedicated processors (ASIC really) for video, audio and general I/O. This unit doesn't appear to have any of that.
Personally, I would run an Amiga emulation program on a PC if I wanted to run my old Amiga software. The same goes for the old Apple ][ software. Unless the software makes very specific access to the hardware - and admittedly, most mods and demos do hit the hardware directly - emulation works fine. I'd be very surprise if this computer could run those mods / demos sucessfully for the same reason.
llbbl
11-12-2002, 08:47 PM
It would be much cooler if they started selling the old systems again.
I saw a guy on TechTV that collected old systems. It was pretty interesting to see all the old systems that were before my time. I think my first machine was an Apple ][ e.
I just want a Parallel processed Mobo..
If the new system has ONE, at that price, I will get one.
Considering that I have ALL the old progs.
And Win XP is supposed to run on PPC systems??
This amiga system is made for the new Amiga 4 OS though, not for emulating the older OS/software.
Trying running windows on a PPC platform, it wont work unless you have some type of emulation layer running inside a native os for the PPC.
It looks like the made the new Amiga OS native for PPC.
Im wondering about the video.
They mentioned that as Long as the software isnt HARWARE dependent, it will run the Old software.
llbbl
11-14-2002, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by ECA
Im wondering about the video.
They mentioned that as Long as the software isnt HARWARE dependent, it will run the Old software.
Ya know I used to run Linux and had ALL sorts of problems, then my good friend told me about the Amiga machines and ya know what I switched and have nothing but starry skies and forests covered in damp green moss while I could hear owls hooting, hooting, hooting in the background. I never expirenced anything like that on my old machine.
www.yahoogroups.com/group/amigaone
a discussion group.
But the Amiga was the First to have REAL stereo.
More then 256 colors.(4,096)
And time code sync for making video and audio to sync together.
Independant processing of Video and audio.
so, when the Audio frooze, the video still WORKED, if the modem frooze, the rest of the hardware STILL worked.
I would LOVE to see this on the Win/tell machines.
llbbl
11-14-2002, 02:37 PM
Ya I wish it did happen on Win machines. I think it might be my modem freezing when I try to log off of Bnet because I almost always have to do a hard reboot. It is rather annoying.
Admitially Win2k and XP is alot more stable than the older dos based OS's.
What came out first the Apple or the Amiga?
Apple 1 and 2 came out first.
I find its MORE stable to run 1 program with its drivers, then to let windows RUN 10 sets of drivers with NOTHING to do. It hogs the system, and REALLY causes more problems. Letting windows RUN itself REALLY sucks.
llbbl
11-15-2002, 08:50 AM
I give up looking for the link. There was this one great site that listed all the programs that windows runs . It was done by this guy as a part of his site "black" something is the name. I can't remember. He was into Diablo 2 and SETI@home.
Ask V8....he has one of those.
I ask something of the manufactour....
I DIDNT like there reply.......
Thankyou for your interest in the AmigaOne
Lots of things would be 'nice' but we have to be realistic
The boards and systems currently available are aimed at existing Amiga
users and developers. The porting of up to date versions of older Amiga
software and software from other platforms can only start once there is a
reasonable base of machines in use. The big push into the consumer markets
will need this level of software to be in place and is therefore at least a
year away
At 02:31 15/11/02 +0000, you wrote:
>I have a Q: about the New amigas..
>Will the motherboards be Parrallel processed, or serial.
>Are there drivers to support Current Windows available cards.
>
>My concern.
>For the New Amiga, to really take HOLD. It has some great
>compitition to Be comparable to. I was in the Start of Pagestream,
>And waited ALONG time for a decent graphic word processor. Update
>after update. When it was finally released, Win95 was out.
>
>I would alos rather a Mobo, that can be updated. The G4 800 is nice
>but It would be better If I could socket the 1200, or even look at
>the G5.
>
>It would also be nice if OS4 could use the Drivers for Linux, insted
>of waiting for releases that may never come. This would give a GREAT
>start on the ability to use CURRENT and future cards.
My conclusion, is they are doing it to GET MORE MONEY.
llbbl
11-15-2002, 09:42 PM
"My conclusion, is they are doing it to GET MORE MONEY"
Which is like the basic principle behind capitalism.
Selling the brand name with updated Hardware is definately something that was dreamed up by a marketing person somewhere.
It sounds like you did your homework before you emailed them. Good attempt at trying to get them to chang their ways. Maybe if they don't sell any and get more letters like that, than they might consider offering a more PC like expirence.
v8juice
11-15-2002, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by ECA
[B]Ask V8....he has one of those.
/B]
I think I get it, it's those programs that start up, if you want them or not, correct me if I'm wrong, via windows...
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.htm
Vin,
If you looked at the SITE....
The prices are for the Mobo, and PPC chip. THATS all.
To make it USE the Original software, you have to buy another card. And OS4 isnt going to be compatable.
Might as well buy a Unix/linux system.
They HAVE to have,
Software that is ALready available to use.
And is compatible with whats ALready out there.
Then they have to have, HARDWARE, that can be equal to whats out there.
A parrallel processed system was what the Original Amiga had. Thats what made it so great. A 25-30 mhz chip was as fast as a P120. And if they add the ability to have FASTER G4 chips, thats great. If I can ADD multi-processors(2,4,...) thats EVEN better.
WHY pay $800+ Dollors if it ISNT what I want. For a MOBO and chip.
I just saw a system with Multiple processor, on IBM PPC chip... 16 processors, WOW. THATS power. I aint got $25,000.
llbbl
11-15-2002, 10:06 PM
Now that's some serious computing power!! Forget the Amiga, I want the 16 processor machine !!
Im trying to find a Multi-processor, G4 Mobo...
sent letter to Motorola.
they do have em..apple sells dual procs.
not sure who makes em though
I know IBM has them, but they are for THERE PPC chip.
Thats the unit with 16... TALK about processing power. Dont blink, if you use it on a Single person system.. Wonder if the video card can keep up.
llbbl
11-17-2002, 06:55 AM
Well its not like the machine was designed to play UT2k3 on it. With the speed of processors/ vid cards these days it depends more on the person's skill and the internet connection than it does the hardware. Getting a 16 processor machine isn't going to give you that extra advantage over the other people playing the game, although it would be just a cool thing to do.
they use these as Network servers. you could have 255 people on this machine as a file server, and NOT slow it down.
The processing power would be Out ragous if you used it for a Single person machine. Forget the Video Cards processing power, use the comps.
Now if you have a Fiber optic LINE, and this running Quake, half life....Weeeeeeee. Those 2 progs Like faster connections.
llbbl
11-18-2002, 06:37 AM
All sorts of things you could do with that much of a machine !!
My point was that their couldn't be much difference in the ability of the player to become better at the game as a result of spending all this money on a expensive machine. I mean with a brand new a person playing on 3 Ghz connected to a Multiple T3 network at a college somewhere might be even better than the rich dude.
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