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qpwoei
01-15-2005, 01:22 AM
Hi fellow MPIO HD300 users!
I have just purchased the player and uploaded all 11HB of my music and it plays fine. Then i decided to upgrade it with new firmware (2.20.03). The player finally restarted and i thought everything was fine - with the new firmware in place. However since the firmware was updated, i cannot access the "Plus Functions" menu option- nothing happens!!! so that means the radio does not work nor does the clock, voice recorder and so on. It still plays music but not the other features. Also, theres a menu called "Upgrade"...?? that doesnt do anything eiither! P

PLEASE HELP ME IF YOU KNOW HOW TO FIX THIS,

Thanks

craigw2905
01-24-2005, 11:52 AM
Hi

As a fellow HD300 owner who is also experiencing some teething problems I though I would offer my 2 cents.

The 2.20.03 firmware upgrade offered on the mpio website indicates that it is for (FM Off) - ie for models that do not support the FM radio option. I made the similar mistake and then reinstalled the 1.20.03 firmware again.

Try this.

Hope this helps.

My problem is that the player does not seem to want to see more that about 1.5 GB (250 files). Although I can see all my music on the player when I look at the directory structure via windows. All the playlists are created though, it just does not see the songs. I thought it was something to do with the fairly strict naming convention of artist-album-genre-title but I have ensured that all my files are correctly named. Also I can get the songs that are "not visible" to play perfectly if I load them within my 250 file window.

I have tried everything including upgrading the MPIO utility to the new version, reloading the firmware, even a scan disk.

I intend returning to the vendor tomorrow as I am all out of suggestions. Any bright ideas will be most welcome though.

thanks
Craig

superukie
01-24-2005, 03:49 PM
I post this for the benefit of users who may not have even been able to upgrade their firmware, since I was having tons of trouble with this to begin with. Hopefully the info below is helpful for those users who are the most confused by the inexistent documentation of this player:

Before proceeding, if you have enough space on your PC, copy the MUSIC folder to your PC. The instructions via the website tell you to format your drive, which I found to be pointless. Do NOT bother using any instructions on the website for upgrading firmware, since they will only leave you scratching your head in a daze.

Anyway, here are the steps to upgrading firmware. I managed to determine that the firmware I wanted is the FM ON firmware (v1.20.03 is the version I downloaded from their website). This is for users living in North America, I was told by Tech Support. Since my player has an FM radio, this is what FM might stand for.

Make sure you have your player connected via USB to your computer AND that your player's power is connected to the wall outlet/surge protector at the same time! I can't stress that enough!

Ok, take the four files from the firmware you downloaded and upzip them into the system folder of your player. The HD300 registers at the E: drive on my system, so I unzipped all four files to E:\SYSTEM. At this point, try to safely remove the MPIO drive from your system through the Windows taskbar. Keep the player's power plugged in. For some reason, this process uses tons of battery power. It should start up saying "Firmware upgrade". Give it a few seconds, power it down, and power it back up again. After about two or three tries, the firmware took!

Again, this is a device for those who have lots of patience and are willing to experiment. Hope this is helpful. Don't give up on it just yet - it's worth the effort.

ParanoidAndroid
01-26-2005, 08:32 PM
Well I'm pretty happy with my HD300 but the only thing that is bugging me is how I can't play all my songs on random. I have subdirectories within my music folder that can't be opened, I can manually but then only that folder will be played. I've made a m3u list using winamp which does work but it isn't random (and its also really prone to locking up). Any tips?

bigtanboy
01-27-2005, 11:49 AM
I just bought my HD 300 a week ago, of corse it kept freezing and i would have to wait for the battery to die to get it going again. So i upgraded to 2.0..? firmware, which pissed me off because i bought this player b/c it had FM, then i down graded to 1.20.03 and i haven't encountered any problems yet. Mpio's tech support sucks, i just wonder about the reputation of this comapany. What :censored are they putting out there? I'll see what happends, luckily i boughtthe service plan @ best buy, 2 years of exchanging.

ParanoidAndroid
01-28-2005, 11:21 PM
yeah just so you know, you don't have to wait till the battery dies, there's a reset button where the speaker hole it.. just poke it with a needle

qpwoei
02-15-2005, 11:11 AM
Just received 2 emails:


:doh :doh :doh :doh :doh

Dear Sir,

We released 1.20.3 in November last year.
We are preparing 1.30 within few weeks.
Please wait for little more.

HD300 don't support text view yet.
I hope next firmware will support it.

Best regards,
Jongwon


*******************

Dear Sir,

I am really sorry about our mistakes.
In the package, We describe supporting text viewer, but
during developing,
We recognized it would take much longer time. So that we
take out that
function from the first releasing.
But the specifications in the package, it didn't deleted.

We are no working hard to support MS PD DRM for HD300.
When we finish it, we will release new firmware.
But I don't know exact time to finish this new firmware.
I just know that It will be finished within 2~3 weeks
later.

Best regards,
Jongwon

***************


any comments??

Roach
02-18-2005, 01:49 PM
I just sent an email to Mpio aswell about firmware and features... hoping to get some answers next week? :-)
I'll keep you guys updated :D

vancouver
02-24-2005, 05:55 AM
My problem is that the player does not seem to want to see more that about 1.5 GB (250 files). Although I can see all my music on the player when I look at the directory structure via windows. All the playlists are created though, it just does not see the songs. I thought it was something to do with the fairly strict naming convention of artist-album-genre-title but I have ensured that all my files are correctly named. Also I can get the songs that are "not visible" to play perfectly if I load them within my 250 file window.



so did the utility scan work?

matrixrebloated
02-25-2005, 04:23 PM
i was gonna buy it from ebay...but now it looks like i should buy it from Target or Best Buy, with a 2 year service or something

Roach
02-26-2005, 11:14 AM
Still haven't got an answer from MPIO.
But while browsing the MPIO site I noticed they had smth like 4 firmware updates for their players... so this seems promising I hope they update the HD300 and make it stable enough for me to buy it :P

ParanoidAndroid
03-20-2005, 07:50 PM
Well it looks like we're getting closer and closer to a new firmware upgrade for the HD300. The firmware for the HD200 was just released which includes a bunch of gui upgrades aswell as additional m3u fixes. I hope as much attention was placed upon the 300's freezing and m3u problems as well. We may be getting a new player soon.

robertjoseph
04-13-2005, 10:10 AM
Can anyone help me solve this.....

My HD300 recently "froze up". I cannot get pass the initial MPIO display. When I was able to talk to someone at Digitialway, they said I needed to get the most recent firmware.

My problem is that my windows XP system no longer recognizes my HD300. The only message I get is that I just connected a "Mass Storage Device" to my USB port. I tried to reload the drivers from MPIO and nothing works. I am not quite sure what I can do to have my computer successfully recognize the HD300.

Trying to contact digialway has been unbearable. No one responded to my emails or my voice mail and their customer service line appears to be always busy.

Does anyone have an idea?

Robert

rumos
04-21-2005, 10:42 PM
i posted this in another thread but i'll post it here too:

i am thinking about buying this mp3 player, but i do have a few concerns

1. directory listing
is it posiible to get a list of directories which are on the player and then choose a certain directory to play the songs which are there?

2. volume
i heard the max. volume is 6mW. is it loud enough?

3. battery life
i wanna use the mpio as a portable harddrive as well so i am wondering how much does transferring 20 GB to/from the player suck a fully loaded battery?

thank u all

Brian
04-22-2005, 02:50 PM
Rumos,

I can answer a couple of your questions:

1) Yes, you can get a list of directories. When you select "Navigation" from the root menu, you get 4 folders: FM (which is where recorded FM is automatically placed), LINE (same as FM for line-in recordings), MUSIC (for your music files), and VOICE (for voice recordings). The player will actually open files from any directory. For example, I place my podcasts in the FM folder. Play the first song in a directory, and it will continue on to the next. Also, random play does not work on playlists, but it will work by directory.

2) How important to you is your hearing? With the bundled earbuds max volume is too loud for me. I'd imagine with more efficient drivers it can get even louder. If you like it really loud, or just want to blow out your eardrums, it might not be sufficient, but you can always get a portable headphone amp.

3) Haven't tried this, so I can't help you there.

-B

rumos
04-25-2005, 02:05 AM
Brian, thank u for ur answers but after reading a couple of reviews on the internet (especially http://www.dapreview.net/content.php?review.125) i decided NOT to buy this player

betaboy
05-01-2005, 09:24 AM
Don't buy HD300, it can only play 256 songs only, no matther how many songs u have put inside the "Music" folder.... Sucks....!!!

qpwoei
05-01-2005, 11:52 AM
I email mpio in January
I received the following replies:

*******************************************
Dear Sir,

We released 1.20.3 in November last year.
We are preparing 1.30 within few weeks.
Please wait for little more.

HD300 don't support text view yet.
I hope next firmware will support it.

Best regards,
Jongwon


*******************

Dear Sir,

I am really sorry about our mistakes.
In the package, We describe supporting text viewer, but
during developing,
We recognized it would take much longer time. So that we
take out that
function from the first releasing.
But the specifications in the package, it didn't deleted.

We are no working hard to support MS PD DRM for HD300.
When we finish it, we will release new firmware.
But I don't know exact time to finish this new firmware.
I just know that It will be finished within 2~3 weeks
later.

Best regards,
Jongwon

***************


This was in January they said that the firmware was nearly ready - where is is?!!!!!!!!

Does anyone know when it will be released?

***************************************
GO TO www.mpioworld.com - to see a dedicated MPIO site/forum!
***************************************

Brian
05-03-2005, 01:03 PM
Don't buy HD300, it can only play 256 songs only, no matther how many songs u have put inside the "Music" folder.... Sucks....!!!

I'm up to 800 songs and I've had no such problem. Do you mean in a single directory or a single playlist?

-B

becky9527
05-03-2005, 02:08 PM
Hi Brian,

I also have the same problem of betaboy. The player can only played 256 songs no matter how many songs I put in t he music folder. I just drag approx. 1000 songs from my C drive in the computer and paste it to the music folder in the F drive. In the window explorer the F drive shows all the songs but I can only play the first 256 songs in the player. Please help.....

Brian
05-03-2005, 04:23 PM
Are you putting all the files in a single directory? The player may be having problems reading that many files from a single directory. I have my songs split up by artist, then album, so there are no more than about 30 songs in each directory.

If that actually is the problem, you could do some very rudimentary organization, like alphabetical. There are programs that will auto-sort your music files into directories based on tag info.

The one downside to having them in seperate directories is that you can't random play from all the songs. I've created some pre-randomized playlists to get around this.

-B

becky9527
05-04-2005, 08:36 AM
Thanks Brian. But I still have problem for the songs. When I turn on my player, go to menu and go to "navigation", several options come out namely: directory, artist, album, genre, title and player music. I choose directory and see four folders: FM, Line, Music and Voice. After I choose the "music" folder, which is where all my songs are there, and play the songs, I can only play the first 256 songs from my list (which is in alphabetica order). But when I reconnect my player to the computer, I can see all my songs still sit in the "music" folder.

OK, when I back to navigation and then choose say "artist", I can only SEE my list of artists and their songs but cannot play their songs. This is the same case when I choose either "album" or "genre". When I choose the "title", it only shows the first 256 songs from my list.

Any suggestions to fix this problem?

ParanoidAndroid
05-19-2005, 02:28 PM
Dear Customer

Thank you for reaching us at Mpio customer service; we appreciate the opportunity to assist you.

I'm happy to tell you that we are preparing the next update of firmware for HD300.
Our R&D staffs are working hard to make bugless firmware. Release date will be on this or next month.
* I cannot tell you about the detailed information about the next update by now, but it will be updated in our site soon.

Do mail to me so that I can assist you further. We're very sorry for the late reply.
Once again, thank you for contacting MPIO customer center.

With our best regards,
Peter

So that works out to... maybe 6 months from now.

MrTNT
06-10-2005, 09:07 PM
Hey guys I'm also having the same problem about only seeing 256 files on my MPIO.
I had taken the suggestion and placed my files in subdirectories of the MUSIC folder. I basically made 3 subfolders 0-L ,M-T, and U-Z. And I am now able to find all my albums by looking in the right subfolder in the Navigation/Directory/Music folder on my MPIO.

However the problem still exist with my PLAYLIST folder.
Going under Album or Artist I can only see 256 of my albums or artist listed. I tried making subdirectories, however they don't work the same as the MUSIC folder.
For example placing 2 named subdirs in the ALBUMS folder, results in the MPIO seeing 2 unnamed dirs under ALBUMS. And when I try to navigate in the subdirs, the MPIO will lock up and I have to hard reset the player.

And running the MPIO Utility will only delete the Subdirs and place the files back in the ALBUMS root directory.

I've noticed that not all of you are mentioning the 256 file limit issue, were you able to find a solution?

gbc_14
06-19-2005, 10:40 AM
hi. i just bought the hd300 three days ago because i wanted to upgrade my 5gb player to the 20gb kind. i was hoping i'd be able to get the same flexibility as that of the one i used to use with the hd300 but it turned out that my new player now has more limitations than my previous one.

my problem is, the number of songs i am seeing are really much less than what i had stored in it. i think this is the 256-songs problem that most has posted here. has there been a solution to this already? i thought that i could have a 20-gig worth of song playing at random if i wanted to do so, like a random-play-all in my previous player, but i just found out that i am not the only one having this problem... what's the point of exchanging your 5-gig player to a 20-gig player but can only play a small amount of songs per folder? was this really the intent of the makers?

second is, i don't know how to create a playlist because it is not posted in the manual. in my previous player, one can create a playlist from the software that was provided and you really don't need a manual to make one because the UI was very intuitive. now, i don't know how to go about it.

third, i don't know how to use the direct encoding cable that is provided in the package. i plugged it into the earphone output of my player with the other end on the earphone output of the hd300 (for it is the only slot where the cable can fit in) but nothing happened when i turned it on. again, how to use it is not in the manual...

fourth, how do you use thinkfree office? i cannot seem to find a manual for that...

i sincerely hope that there are solutions to my problems. when i go back to the store where i bought the unit from, they'll just replace my unit with another unit that is exactly of the same make, that is, i cannot exchange it for something else, like the same brand of my previous player. thus, if there is still no solution to these, then the store will just give me a new unit which has the same problems...

i hope someone will reply to my post...

MrTNT
06-19-2005, 10:56 PM
1 . my problem is, the number of songs i am seeing are really much less than what i had stored in it. i think this is the 256-songs problem that most has posted here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

First it seems this is how the HD300 is designed. Its not a flaw. Even MPIOs Flash players are limited to 126 files only. The way to half way work around this is to create subdirectories in the MUSIC folder. I arranged mine as 0-9, A-K, L-Z. Each folder can't have more than 256 files in them.
As for accessing your music through the Albums, Genre and Artist folders...forget about. creating subdirectories in these folder will only crash your player if you try to access them.
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2. second is, i don't know how to create a playlist because it is not posted in the manual. in my previous player, one can create a playlist from the software that was provided and you really don't need a manual to make one because the UI was very intuitive. now, i don't know how to go about it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I suppose to emphisize that the HD300 can be used as a mass storage device, and doesn't require drivers. There is no management software, with basic functions like creating playlist, this is somewhat of an inconvience.
But you can creat a Playlist with Winamp or in Windows Medis Player; Its under the file tab and choose Save Play List As....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

3. third, i don't know how to use the direct encoding cable that is provided in the package. i plugged it into the earphone output of my player with the other end on the earphone output of the hd300 (for it is the only slot where the cable can fit in) but nothing happened when i turned it on. again, how to use it is not in the manual...

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I've never experimented with the Line In Audio cable.
But I was under the impression that, that cable is just used to hook the HD300 to another device like a Stereo or sound card with a Line In jack, and listen to your music that way. I'm not sure if the headphone jack can be used as both a Input and Output port.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

4. fourth, how do you use thinkfree office? i cannot seem to find a manual for that...

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

First off, the HD300 doesn't support that software as advertised. The label on the CD even says you have to install it on the HD300. However the current firmware doesn't doesn't support it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
5. i sincerely hope that there are solutions to my problems. when i go back to the store where i bought the unit from, they'll just replace my unit with another unit that is exactly of the same make, that is, i cannot exchange it for something else, like the same brand of my previous player. thus, if there is still no solution to these, then the store will just give me a new unit which has the same problems...
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Well I bought mine directly for Digital Way (MPIO) and it broke on the 2nd day.
They told me they'd exchange it if I mailed in my broken one but they only sent me back the same broken player with not even repairs done to it. I contacted them and asked what was going on and they admited it was a mistake and said that someone would contact me later about what was going to happpen. Well its going on day 3 now without a word from them.
I had read several post from people stating that MPIO is about to release a new 1.30 firmware to correct most of the players issues. They promised it would be ready at the end of the month or the begining of the next, But then I realized that these posts were from January!

gbc_14
06-20-2005, 05:07 PM
thanks MrTNT. i guess there are still no solutions to the problems posted here. such a big turn off for what would have been a very nice device. i guess we'll just have to live with this. sad....

gbc_14
06-21-2005, 04:23 PM
I'm up to 800 songs and I've had no such problem. Do you mean in a single directory or a single playlist?

-B

hi. how were you able to do this? thanks.

qpwoei
06-24-2005, 05:50 AM
I purchased a new MPIO HD300 MP3 player a few months ago. I have been very
pleased with the device but have just encountered a problem.

When I try turning the unit on, the hard drive fails to spin and the "MPIO"
logo shows continuously. Nothing changes on the screen. I therefore cannot
use the unit or turn it off again.

I tried plugging it into the USB port of my computer, but again nothing
happened - only the "Connecting to USB..." screen showed.

I have searched MPIO forums on the internet and other users seem to have the
same problem. The sent their players away, i think, to be fixed. Please
could you advice me on what to do to fix my player.

Do I have to send it away? If so, where?
Do you require further information from me, if so what?

cheers

MrTNT
06-24-2005, 07:24 AM
You'll have to send it back to Digital Way.
I sent mine back for the same problem and am currently waiting for its return.

qpwoei
06-25-2005, 02:53 PM
Here are email "Jongwon" sent me:

"If you don't connect to Pc so that you can't upgrade it.
Please send it me and the I will return it "

"My address is

Planetenweg 11-44, unit 23A, 2132 HN, Hoofddorp, The Netherlands
Tel) +31-23-5577889 Mp) +31-6-29125500, Fax)+31-23-5625752

Best regards,
Jongwon "


"Address is right.
If I can't fix it, I will replace it.
Don't worry.

If it caused not from your fault, I don't charge its cost to you.

Best regards,
Jongwon "








*************

Where did you send your player too?
Should i send my player to this guy (jwseo@mpio.com)? I have emailed him for a while about MPIO and he seems legit.
How long will it take to get it back fixed?
Did you pay for it to be fixed - or have to show a warrenty?!
Thanks for the help.

MrTNT
06-25-2005, 11:04 PM
Well hold on....where are you located?
I mean I live in the USA and MPIO America is in San Diego, CA, about 40 mins away from where I live.

But if you are in Europe then the Netherlands is the only place to send it I guess.
http://www.mpio.com/support/contact_us.html

qpwoei
06-26-2005, 12:17 AM
Yes I am located in europe (England).
Where did you send your player too?
Should i send my player to this guy (jwseo@mpio.com)? I have emailed him for a while about MPIO and he seems legit.
How long will it take to get it back fixed?
Did you pay for it to be fixed - or have to show a warrenty?!
Thanks for the help.

qpwoei
06-26-2005, 12:36 AM
OK,
Go to:

http://home.doramail.com/qpwoei:doramail.com/mpio.html

to download the 1.30 new hd300 firmware.
It is for evaluation only - it has not been officially released because it has not been tested. Please use with caution! I do not know what issues this version addresses. I received the firmware via email from ***@mpio.com. Rollback to the previous firmware if this does not work.

Please post your comments!

dr4g0n
06-26-2005, 02:02 AM
Good Job qpwoei.

Now looking forward to a revised evaluation of the HD300.
I am deciding whether to buy this player or not on the performance of this firmware.

Thanks

qpwoei
06-26-2005, 02:49 AM
Thanks, I hope the feedback is good. However, even if it isnt, i would totally recommend the player. What features of the player are essential for you?

dr4g0n
06-26-2005, 04:50 AM
1. At least 5GB
2. Price
2. FM Radio and Voice Recording
3. Navigation Interface
4. Mass storage device
5. style, apearance and quality

I ve been looking at the Zen Micro and iAUDIO M3 however I found the 40GB version of this player for a very decent price.

Some say that this new player also changes the menu and the player navigation. This is very exciting to hear, maybe they put in a graphic equalizer which isnt essential but considering the screen size and resolution should be easy. If only I had the player then I would load the new firmware straight way.

qpwoei, how is the quality of the player (I heard there were loose screws) and also how are the earphones which come with it?

Thanks

qpwoei
06-26-2005, 07:04 AM
1. At least 5GB - Yes.
2. Price - Very cheap.
2. FM Radio and Voice Recording - Yes, great quality too.
3. Navigation Interface - Easy, same as iPod, but a bit slow - speeds up after a few secs until finished navigating.
4. Mass storage device - Yes, drag and drop, no software required.
5. style, apearance and quality - Very stylish IMO, better than tacky iPod. VERY good build quality - screws come lose after a while (couple of months) but screw them back in with screw driver DUH!

"Some say that this new player also changes the menu and the player navigation. This is very exciting to hear, maybe they put in a graphic equalizer."

---> What do you mean by "new player"? Do you mean new firmware? The player has a equalizer - you can customise the sound settings, if thats what you mean...?



"qpwoei, how is the quality of the player (I heard there were loose screws) and also how are the earphones which come with it?"


----> The screws are fine. The headphones are great IMO. People complain but i think they are nice fitting and good bass and treble etc. I am picky and have tried Sony in ear etc. and prefer these.


Hope this helps...
:thumb

MrTNT
06-26-2005, 07:34 AM
Well I ment that I sent my player to MPIO America, in San Diego, CA. I didn't email anyone but I called alot and spoke with a Jia Kim head sales, and a technician named Yaun (SP?)

Anyway heres what happened. I sent my player to them, and they returned it to me, saying that they fixed a loose ribbon cable. But I was getting the same problem. when I turned the player on I would just get the MPIO logo and nothing more, and my computer wouldn't recognize it. I called them and told them about it, and they asked me to send it back ( and yes I'm paying for the shipping) and then they call me back saying that nothing was wrong with it. They turned it on and it worked properly.
We decided to let them keep it for a couple days and use it to see if it ever freezes up.

Since I'm only a 40 min drive away from the place, I've been only waiting a day or two to get it back from them. They seem to start working on it as soon as they get it.

I sure hope that when I get it back, it works, becuase I don't understand why they have no problems with it when I can't even get it past the MPIO logo screen.
If it still doesn't work, I won't know what else to do.

alex_lorenzo
06-27-2005, 01:11 AM
OK,
Go to:

http://home.doramail.com/qpwoei:doramail.com/mpio.html

to download the 1.30 new hd300 firmware.
It is for evaluation only - it has not been officially released because it has not been tested. Please use with caution! I do not know what issues this version addresses. I received the firmware via email from ***@mpio.com. Rollback to the previous firmware if this does not work.

Please post your comments!
I have downloaded the new 1.30 firmware for HD300, but it seems to be a bad joke. It rolled back my player to version 0.00.11, which obviously looked older. I managed to roll back to 1.20.03 without serious problems (I had to repeat it, though)
So please, be careful with this software.

(If anyone has managed to install such 0.30 version, please, post here how did you do it)
Thanks,
alex

dr4g0n
06-27-2005, 01:13 AM
That's quite distressing for me to hear.

I have some questions about the HD300:
1. Can you make "on the fly" playlists
2. Are you able to organise your music through Genre-Artist-Album

alex_lorenzo
06-27-2005, 03:33 AM
1. Can you make "on the fly" playlists
I don't think so (= not documented anywhere)

2. Are you able to organise your music through Genre-Artist-Album
YES, using the Mpio utility while the player is connected; too long tag fields may give blank (but operative) entries

alex_lorenzo
06-29-2005, 07:02 AM
Hi all,
the new 1.30.04 firmware for the HD300 player is out.
I have installed it in two minutes, and works ok.
Some translation corrections (spanish!)
Same display, slight menu changes, (EDITED: Auto-off or sleep time are not kept after switching off. Nothing new so far.
I haven't tried the radio or the 256 song limit.

Alex

qpwoei
06-29-2005, 07:39 AM
a couple of questions about the new firmware:

1. Is the navigation between directory and menu etc. quicker than before?

2. Can the player now view text files?

3. What is this "improved equalizer" thing - ive never found a use for the original one anyway?!

4. Does the backlight still come on when the unit is charging and turned off?

thanks

alex_lorenzo
06-29-2005, 11:08 AM
qpwoei

1. Is the navigation between directory and menu etc. quicker than before?
It looks a faster to me, even when playing songs, going back is especially faster

2. Can the player now view text files?
Never tried the "lyrics" option before

3. What is this "improved equalizer" thing - ive never found a use for the original one anyway?!
the presets look the same to me. The user equaliser has been redesigned, but still the same five channel one.

4. Does the backlight still come on when the unit is charging and turned off?
Yes, but it stays off when you are charging with the player off.

Still, no gapless playing. Fastforward is still the 5 sec jump.

qpwoei
06-30-2005, 08:51 AM
I don't understand how they can spend over half a year on this upgrade - and still miss crutial, easy fixes.

1 question- have any of you broken your mpio hd300, and sent it off to be fixed? Mine froze at startup at the MPIO logo, and I had to press the reset button to turn it off. So I have sent it away...

MrTNT
06-30-2005, 10:07 PM
I don't understand how they can spend over half a year on this upgrade - and still miss crutial, easy fixes.

1 question- have any of you broken your mpio hd300, and sent it off to be fixed? Mine froze at startup at the MPIO logo, and I had to press the reset button to turn it off. So I have sent it away...

Yes, I just recieved a new one from them today. So far so good. But my other one broke after the first two days.

And you're right, all that time and hardly and significant changes.

I noticed that the Auto Preset for radio station is now worse than before.
It only scans 20 stations, but since it picks up anything with noise while scanning it reaches the 20th channel before it gets half way through the spectrum. It starts at 87.5 and stops at 96.0 missing the station that I really want at 100.7. And there seems to be no way to manual make your preset.

ParanoidAndroid
07-03-2005, 07:37 PM
what a joke, can we get a petition going to submit to them so we can tell them what a horrible job they are doing

fatboy_1999
07-03-2005, 11:45 PM
And there seems to be no way to manual make your preset.

Apologies if this has already been covered.
The presets are a pain.

To set your own radio presets:
Swap to radio.
Go into Seek mode if not already there (Enter)
Tune to frequency you are after << >>
Press Rec
CH01 will appear to left of frequency.
You can scroll up/down channels with << >> buttons.
Select the channel number you want to save this frequency to.
Press Enter - This will overwrite whatever was in this preset.
Repeat as many times as you like. I only have about 8 stations I am interested in, so I have just repeated the same frequencies a few times.
It helps to write them down as you go so you remember what channel you are up to.

Hope that helps.

G4v1n
07-04-2005, 05:54 AM
Hi all,
the new 1.30.04 firmware for the HD300 player is out.
I have installed it in two minutes, and works ok.
Some translation corrections (spanish!)
Same display, slight menu changes, (EDITED: Auto-off or sleep time are not kept after switching off. Nothing new so far.
I haven't tried the radio or the 256 song limit.

Alex

To answer Alex, I also did this upgrade last night. The documentation on the MPIO web site about this upgrade is nothing short of shocking, and caused the process to take a lot longer than it should have. I then loaded 500 songs onto the player to test the 256 song issue. After song number 256 the player refuses to play songs that are indexed. So, no, the 256 song limit issue has not been addressed.

Conclusion: the upgrade is pointless!

MrTNT
07-04-2005, 08:46 AM
Apologies if this has already been covered.
The presets are a pain.

To set your own radio presets:
Swap to radio.
Go into Seek mode if not already there (Enter)
Tune to frequency you are after << >>
Press Rec
CH01 will appear to left of frequency.
You can scroll up/down channels with << >> buttons.
Select the channel number you want to save this frequency to.
Press Enter - This will overwrite whatever was in this preset.
Repeat as many times as you like. I only have about 8 stations I am interested in, so I have just repeated the same frequencies a few times.
It helps to write them down as you go so you remember what channel you are up to.

Hope that helps.


Thanks Fatboy, I was getting fustrated with that.
I think last time I pressed REC, it started recording the station instead of switching to the channel mode, But now it works all of a sudden. :thumb

gbc_14
07-06-2005, 06:01 PM
hi. so you mean to say the new firmware is totally useless? that's sad. i am happy that i have this player but i was hoping there is more to it... :(

alex_lorenzo
07-07-2005, 06:43 AM
hi. so you mean to say the new firmware is totally useless? that's sad. i am happy that i have this player but i was hoping there is more to it... :(

Not useless, but a small improvement. Most serious inconveniences have not been corrected, but probably that's the way they like it. I don't think they have a HUGE feedback from us users (compare it to the number of iPod users). So perhaps it is slower. Nontheless, it's worth installing.

gbc_14
07-07-2005, 04:49 PM
Not useless, but a small improvement. Most serious inconveniences have not been corrected, but probably that's the way they like it. I don't think they have a HUGE feedback from us users (compare it to the number of iPod users). So perhaps it is slower. Nontheless, it's worth installing.

hi. thanks for the reply alex. i have installed the new f/w and i still have to enjoy the new features. the thing i've noticed is that the "now playing" is in the top most menu, which i liked. i do hope that the people from mpio reads our forum, even occasionally...

on another note, i guess the 256-limit will stay with us. if you read the "mega folders" topic in the product view, they said "the number of files in each created folder should not be exceeded in 256 files". so i guess we'll all have to live with that...

good day people. :)

Sophie
07-08-2005, 05:17 AM
i just got my player today and i was wondering about the toch pad. I realise that you don't need to actually press the butoons (touching them is enough) but i was wondering if the "menu" button on anyonelse's player also presses down the backwards and record buttons if your not super careful.
Is this supposed to happen or should i send it back for a new one before it gets worse?

alex_lorenzo
07-08-2005, 06:37 AM
Sophie, in my experience, its when I press the rew and ff buttons that I often press the up volume (the rec and play buttons are played less often, and always once).
If I'm hearing music it's annoying to hear it suddenly painfully loud! I try to push a little to the mirrored side, instead.

Probably, the buttons plate may be a little to sensitive in your case.

Alex

turbonegro
07-13-2005, 01:44 PM
Been thinking about buying the 40 gb version of this player at my local shop. Price, build, soundquality all looks great, but that 256 song limit....
Now I'm wondering 40 gb of mp3's in artist-album folders make more than 256 dirs, so is that possible or am I going to rearrange my whole music folder on the harddisk? Seems like a lot of work, and it kind of irritates me if it turns out so.

plemen
08-23-2005, 10:10 PM
Been thinking about buying the 40 gb version of this player at my local shop. Price, build, soundquality all looks great, but that 256 song limit....
Now I'm wondering 40 gb of mp3's in artist-album folders make more than 256 dirs, so is that possible or am I going to rearrange my whole music folder on the harddisk? Seems like a lot of work, and it kind of irritates me if it turns out so.

If you have the music in artist-album folders than it shouldn't be a problem - unless you have one album that has more than 256 songs.

The 256 limit only applies to a single folder - you can have as many folders as you want (I'm sure there is some limit to the number of folders but not really sure).

I've imported all of my mp3's into iTunes and it automatically creates artist-album folders based on the ID3 tag of the mp3 file - then I just copy these folders over to the hd300 - works great!

BTW does anybody have any sort of API or other programming info to create apps for the hd300 (I want to create a playlist editor)? I'm pretty good with C, C++ and would love to do it but I can't seem to find any info on the source for the firmware... If anybody has any info please let me know.

qpwoei
08-24-2005, 07:21 AM
Mpio have just sent me a replacement HD300. It looks brand new - but the backlight is faulty. It turns on sometimes when a button is pressed, but sometimes it doesnt.

Does anyone else have this problem?

:rolleyes:

Tomson
08-26-2005, 08:57 AM
I friend of mine got HD300 player and he says he cannot get the player to show lyrics.

So, anyone knows what should be the problem?

Are there any special things to watch for, like what files does it show (.txt ...), should the name of the lyrics file be the same as the song name ...

Tnx a lot for all the help.


Tomson

ndisi08
08-26-2005, 04:30 PM
I just got my hd300 and am totally confused on how to install the firmware. That utility it comes with seaches for .dwu files and every upgrade i've downloaded has not had one of these. So how would I go about installing the latest firmware?

vviskari
08-27-2005, 12:59 AM
See the other thread (...confusing) for upgrade instructions. You don't need the utility.

ndisi08
08-28-2005, 11:34 AM
thanks for the reply! got it to work

when charging, i constantly have the "battery full" message showing, but when i turn on the player and disconect the dc cable, it has only 1 bar
it said this even before the initial charge
is this normal?

plemen
08-29-2005, 03:12 PM
thanks for the reply! got it to work

when charging, i constantly have the "battery full" message showing, but when i turn on the player and disconect the dc cable, it has only 1 bar
it said this even before the initial charge
is this normal?

I'm having the same problem - I'm starting a new thread for this as this is becoming the never ending thread!

stagge
09-27-2005, 04:05 AM
A have a soulution to the loch problem...

When the player locks let the player on so the batary emtys, then let the player rest for 3 houers o so (to emty the memory), then plug the ac adapter to the player then plug in the player to you computer and downloade the new fireware to the player. (then the player works)

This Firmware works for me.
http://83.227.144.248/HD300_Firmware_1.30.04_funkar.zip

MrTNT
09-27-2005, 09:34 PM
Is that the same firmware on the MPIO website?