Scheidegger Training

[scheidegger]

In response to the false rumours that are being spread on this forum Scheidegger wish to announce that all exam fees are covered by the college.

[ladlee]

Looks like its working people. Carry on exposing Scheidegger & maybe they'll start refunding & maybe even admitting they're...... what they are????

[scheidegger]

We would like to remind all readers that Scheidegger students should, in the first instance, contact their course tutors if they have a complaint. As a company we are very concerned that all complaints are dealt with quickly and in a professional manner. However, Scheidegger Training will not tolerate rumour mongering and false stories being published in public internet forums. In this instance, individuals who are found not to be students - past or present - or otherwise have no association with Scheidegger Training will be pursued and identified and the full force of the law will be applied. Anyone wishing to contact Scheidegger by email can do so at liaison@scheidegger.co.uk (put your agreement number in the subject line).

[neuroking]

Yup, I sure want to go to a school at threatens people on public forums. Or a school that identifies itself as a company.

pst... you're doing more harm than good by actually trying to address flame wars on public forums. Go back and watch Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.

[majestix2005]

Stay well clear from Scheidegger Training. The course itself is worthless and the prices are completely unreasonable. I joined Scheidegger late last year and then after reading some posts on the internet I decided not to do it. By this time of course it was too late and they insisted that I started paying them immediately. Up until this day I have not paid them a penny and should be soon going to court. I can't afford to pay these fees and have no intention on ever paying them. Scheidegger are nothing but con artists who pray on easy victims. All I can say is not to trust them and avoid them at all costs. This won't be the end.

[Techy Boy]

Hi all :)

I posted this thread this morning however it was removed, as this is a public forum and I thought it meant that every one can express a view regarding training providers, and as this is not Russia or China I will submit my view and remove what might be viewed as promoting our company!!

Firstly I would like to point out from the start that yes I work for Scheidegger, I am one of their Course Advisors. I came across this forum after one of my students mentioned he had seen a few complaints about the company.
I read with interest Cybersquirrels comments, I then went to google and typed in Scheidegger complaints to be confronted by not thousands of complaints !! which is what I was expecting after reading Cybersquirrels comments!! I was expecting thousands!! Instead I came across this forum, and one other, in total I counted about 15 complaints, that’s from a Training Provider that trains thousands of people a year!!

When reading reviews of training providers you will discover that there always seems to be more negative reviews than there are positive, this is the case when anyone has a complaint about any company, on average a person that is not satisfied will tell approx 9 people whereas someone who is happy with a company will only on average tell about 6.

Now I go to see people on a daily basis to talk about training, this isn’t me turning up on the door out of the blue and asking them if they want to train! They have invited me to come and see them.
Now people today who genuinely want to get qualified in I.T. obviously realise that Microsoft or Cisco training isn’t going to be free.

We as trainers come along and explain the different courses and costs involved, people who are genuine about training realise their problem, their problem is most people cant afford to pay out up front to study at these levels.
We then allow them to train by putting up the cost of the course (interest free) now if someone is unemployed or on low income, the chances of getting a bank loan which won’t be interest free!! Or putting it on a credit card is slim. We then allow them to pay back their training budget at an affordable amount a month.

As for the money side it on average costs over £24000 to do a 3 year degree course at University, that’s just your living expenses, tuition fees are on top in the form of a student loan.
Whether you are a UK, EU or international student, your living expenses will mainly include accommodation (unless you are a UK student living rent-free at home), food, entertainment and books. You can get a good idea of the cost of accommodation from the University's Accommodation Office. Your other living expenses will depend to a large extent on your way of life. At present, most students spend something in the region of £6,000 to £8,000 a year on their living expenses, including accommodation. University costs link (http://www.leeds.ac.uk/students/cost_of_living_international.htm)

Imagine after 3 months turning around to the University and saying no thanks this course isnt for me I cant do it please can I cancel? they would turn round and say no problem but you have just taken a 3 year placement which means you would still have to pay for your tuition fees.

We don’t offer a magic formula or promise people high paying jobs in the Industry, we only allow people to train at an affordable and realistic pace, as most people can’t give up their jobs to do full time college training.

So to anyone reading these threads obviously when someone comes to talk to you regarding training at the end of the day it is a serious business as it is your future and our money upfront, If MICROSOFT, CISCO, COMPTIA, CIW OR SAGE allowed you to train for FREE then obviously there would be no need for Training Providers like us.

So if you decide on certain course stick with it don’t just give it a couple of months, also when you look around at other training providers make note that most of them will ask for a hefty deposit at least 20% of your course cost upfront, or they will offer you a deferred interest loan, we don't!!

Apologies guys for the rant, feel free to Email (courseadvisor@hotmail.com) me if anyone wants to ask me any questions. :cheers

[ECA]

OK, whose BUMPING the messages??
we are having a GOOD debate...

As to that last POST which I DID see...
Im not suggesting this just cause of YOUR status in another country...Im NOT thinking that the US, side is any better.
considering there are at LEASt 1000 FASt tech schools in the US, and 10,000 By mail services...and the only schools that will teach you anything in HIGH tech and what is CURRENT/up to date knowledge, are numbered on 1 hand..

All I could possibly tell that you are TEACHING is program use, and NOT real programming. If you were then you would understand the programming world, and at LEAST add the IBM series of machines, including AS400..

[Ioman]

Our reseller ratings forum is for readers to post their personal experiences. Any posts which contain duragatory remarks or flames will be deleted. Companies are allowed to post explanations, but if the topic gets out of hand, or the argument grows to the post where it makes the thread meaningless, the posts will be deleted.

I would recommend that all Scheidegger refrain from posting on the Designtechnica forums.

[ECA]

I just want to see there acreditation, and the education of there TEACHERS/trainers..

[Thor]

What's all this about Scheidegger? I did a PC Master Course with them and successfully got my A+.

Now I have a proper grounding in the subject, I just need to get some practical experience. I'd actually expected to have practical sessions throughout the course but they actually all took place towards the end which, in one way isn't a bad thing.

What made it work for me though was the tutors who were very helpful. If there was an area which needed restudying they pointed it out in the notes. The main thing was they were there when you needed them.

I have found the whole experience quite satisfactory.

[ECA]

This is mostly the explanation of why a FEW have become disgruntled.

things to ask a training school BEFORE inrolling..
Are the credits transferable, and on what percentage.
Call other colleges and schools and ASK them what they accept.
Call Big business and ask if this is what COULD get you a job, above minnimum wage.

KNOW what they are teaching, and if those JOBS are being overwhelmed.
Know the course and IF its worth taking.. Learning BASIC, Fortran, and some languages WONT help alot. Learning 1 computer OS/environment may not get you a JOB on a mainframe or linux, Mac, AS400 or any other computer controlled world.

the REAL doors to the world, go to the Musician that wants to make a MUSIC program...NOT the programmer that WANTS to learn music.

Cad/CAM(all the varibles) design/drafting in heavey machining to Curcuit boards to HOME design to controlling the machines that MAKE the parts and cut the lumber.

Internet protocols..And LORD knows there alot of them..you need at LEAST 6 languages NOW to set up a site for a business. Java, SQL, HTML,ActiveX,.....
They can be used from almost ANY OS and run from MOSt any machine. LEARN the OLd way, and you will have FEW if any problems..Be able to LOOK at the code and read it, dont depned on SOME program that may insert a MACRO or excess "STUFF" not needed.

as a specialty, SOFTWARe and HARDWARE drivers... Learn to make CUSTOM drivers for Hardware, MAKE that thing Hmmm, and print, post, ACT the way you WANT.. Customers will BEAt a path to your door.
software drivers can be cool, telling directX HOW to use graphics to make the BEST worlds look better, Macros to print better forms, how to intregrate 1 format to another, like WAV to MP3...Ever try to import a MAC file to windows?? It sucks..make it better, and LOTS more ppl will beat a path to your door.

any company that wants to teach you something should COVER ALL the bases, to give you the BEST chance to get a job...NOT just a job with Microsoft or just enough to KNOW how to run programs..

YES, Im abit Biased, and I ran into some stuff as I learned my education.. Im from the OLD school, when I learned on a IBM 360-30 and EVERYTHING started to change to WINDOWS, and NOW its starting to change again.. DONT get stuck in LIMBO land, you want GREAt coverage of ALOT of areas to cover ALL your bases.
You want to be able to WALK into ANY company and be ABLE to offer them something. Or at LEASt be able to LEARN MORE after you took ALL this education.

[bradkerry26]

I am yet another victim of the scheidegger rip off company, and am amazed to read other Peoples comments about them, if only I had looked into it further I would of saved myself a lot of hassle & money. If there was an award for the biggest fraudsters in the UK they would come up tops. I just can’t believe the things that are promised to you but never actually happen. They are quick to send someone round to sign you up and take all your payment details but never get round to discussing the small print I WONDER WHY!!!!!
Having taken out the web design course I was given all the information I could ever ask
for, folder upon folder of course work but how reliable & up to date it all is, is a different story.

I was told by the so called advisor that I would be able to cancel the course at any time if I wanted To since talking to this company on the telephone they say they have a cut off point of 21 days, At no point did he ever mention this to me or explain that If the course was cancelled I would have to pay back the full amount £2500. Why you have to pay the full amount completely baffles me.

I could understand if you had been gained something from doing parts of the course but to cancel And not have anything to show for it at all why should we have to pay any more !!!

[Scheidegger2005]

cancel the payments, scheidegger don't care, got the money from the people you got the loan off. you'll win the court case as well as the course is not what it is advertised.
then again you should do your course £2,500 is a bargain for a Scheidegger certificate. Not many people have them as they stop doing the course because its so pointless

[webmaster]

I am yet another victim of the scheidegger rip off company, and am amazed to read other Peoples comments about them, if only I had looked into it further I would of saved myself a lot of hassle & money. If there was an award for the biggest fraudsters in the UK they would come up tops. I just can’t believe the things that are promised to you but never actually happen. They are quick to send someone round to sign you up and take all your payment details but never get round to discussing the small print I WONDER WHY!!!!!
Having taken out the web design course I was given all the information I could ever ask
for, folder upon folder of course work but how reliable & up to date it all is, is a different story.
I could understand if you had been gained something from doing parts of the course but to cancel And not have anything to show for it at all why should we have to pay any more !!!

Bradkerry I like you signed up with Scheidegger for the A+ N+ MCSE, however looking back I cant rememember the Course Advisor twisting my arm and forcing me to sign up! On the contary the reason I trained with them is because I couldnt afford to pay for the training upfront myself, however other companies were quite eager to sign me up take a hefty deposit and put me on a Career Development Loan, however being unemployed at the time my credit status was through the floor and as you have to go to a Bank to get a CDL I was snookered also a CDL is a deferred interest loan!!
So when I signed up with Scheidegger they offered me to pay back reasonable monthly payments and more importantly Interest Free!! and no massive deposits upfront.
However I am no fool before I signed up I was fully aware about what I was doing and signing and realised if someone was going to invest money in me they would want to see a commitment to paying it back.
As I am now fully qualified and working in I.T obviously I
can look back and be thankfull that I did it that way. Most people looking at thest threads look like they want some training for little or no effort and no commitment, if only that was the case. :rolleyes:

[ECA]

Those ppl that come to your door to sign you up.
They get paid for each person they sign.
they will bend over backward to get your signature.
There are good ones and Bad ones.

[edinblack14]

I too have signed up with Scheidegger. At no point was I pushed into it and the representative was honest and asked me if I could really afford it. So far I am happy with the service but I have only recently started the A+/N+ course. I pay monthly payments and did not fork out a large sum. I recently left college which was going nowhere and I am in £4,500 of debt achieving absolutely nothing. If I had continued the course my debt would have ran up to £12,000 so £2,500 plus a chance to resit the course sounds good to me.

[gary_hendricks]

Yeah I agree with Thor. I had a friend do a course with them and it was ok ...

[bradkerry26]

Well as you say you weren't pushed into it but some of us were, we were given false information about the course. Also as you say you have only recently started so lets see what you think in a couple of months.

[cybersquirrel]

Hi guys ,
I have read all the comments with interest and admit to being suprised to see that scheudegger appeard to single me out like that .
However , since i made my first post on this forum i have been amazed at the amount of people who have since emailed me with complaints , i have a long list of email address`s at hand.
I am as i have informed scheidegger in contact with the bbc tv programme watchdog and scheidegger have welcomed their assitance which i have in writeing from scheidegger .
I would like to ask tech boy though , why is it that when i now telephone to request my course be cancelled that i am so abruptly told "look youve been told more than once you cannot cancel youre just going to have to accept it" , im sure you agree that with staff attitudes such as this this , is it any wonder i dont want to continue with scheiegger .
I did complain at the time about the manor in which i was spocken to , only to be told if i slag off the company the guy will just put the phone down on me ,i would very much appreciate your comments regarding this matter.
Can you also please tell me how it is that when my tutor informs me that my work has gone missing but dont worry skip this section and move onto the next section (bearing in mind that i am paying for my work to be marked and returned to me) how the tutor knows that i am ready to move onto the next section.
The problem i had began when the rep told me that i could cancel at any time , i was also told by the rep NOT to open any folders untill a letter arrived with tutor details , this letter took fifteen days to arrive and scheidegger included this fifteen days in the twenty one day cancellation time limit . I work long shifts working four days on then four days off so my cancellation limit had allmost expired before i looked at anything , would you not agree that a better deal would be that the twenty one day cancellation limit began frm the date in which the tutor was called , or from the date the tutor details were recieved .
In relation to your earlier post in which you threaten legal action , that does appear to be some what aimed at myself seing as you only mention myself in your post .
I do view posts such as that as harrasment and victimisation ,from what i have seen on this forum none of your staff either tutors or reps have been mentioned directly , yet you choose to make a direct attack against myself ..
I am more than happy to discuss any matter with you by telephone , on the provision that its a discussion not an argument .

[dang]

you might want to send him a PM.

[cybersquirrel]

i will do that dang , i wanna set up a different email address for him to use which i will do this morning .although im sure he will come back to check on this forum

[Spike]

In response to the false rumours that are being spread on this forum Scheidegger wish to announce that all exam fees are covered by the college.
You state that students don't pay for exams.
This is not true. I am a student and your literature clearly states, students have to arrange and pay for their own examinations.
If that has now changed, as you've indicated, why have you not sent a letter to all students notifying them of this. And remember to send them Recorded Delivery as things always get 'lost in the post'.

I'm afraid to say my experiences with Scheidegger have all been negative in the extreme. Tutors that rely on computerized print outs to mark your work and award 100% on questions you only half answered. Long delays on receiving back work before you can continue with course work. Financial penalties if you don't complete the whole course on time. Promised group meetings of students in a local hotel to go over course work that never happens. Course material never being updated. e.g. Foundation v4 has now been replaced by CIW v5 Foundation but no updates have been issued. Poorly packaged course cds that arrive damaged. The Scheidegger certificate isn't recognised by employers, so it's worthless, and the list goes on.

Be warned, don't be taken in by the salesman's patter -Scheidegger is an expensive mistake that you can't escape from once you've signed that contract.

Check out these two sites, which I can only guess were produced by their so called highly acclaimed qualified Tutors. Take a real good look at the page source code. It speaks volumes on how non-professional they really are.
http://www.mrss.demon.co.uk/scheidegger2/studyfromhome.htm
http://www.scheidegger-online.com/tutor

Be aware of positive feedback. Scheidegger, as this forum shows, are obviously looking to enhance their credibility.

[cybersquirrel]

Appreciate those links spike ,
The rep that called round told me that all exams were coverd in the course fees , clearly a blatent lie .
I began with the web design course and was told by the rep not to look at anything untill i recieved my tutor details and had made contact ,i waited fifteen days for this letter and scheidegger included these fifteen days in the twenty one day cancellation time limit ,so i only had six days in which to decide if i want to do the course or not which is clearly not enough time given that i work long shifts.
When i opened the course i found a large section titled what is the internet followed by a lesson on the history of the internet .For web design scheidegger teach frontpage express ,i have been told by three people now who work in web design that frontpage is no longer used .
As you correctly state the manor that your spocken to on the phone is is disgusting .
I have emailed the liason guy with my phone number to discuss my problems with scheidegger although to date he has failed to call me.

[80sRockGod]

Last year I applied to an advert I saw for Schiedegger. After a month someone finally came round. He seemed geniune enough and did seem to know what he was talking about. But then, conmen usually do. At the time I was very desperate to take a course in computers. These people pray on people who are only looking to improve themselves. Unfortunately I did not have access to the internet at the time and signed up, as I was told that I could only sign up there and then as there were limited spaces left. I was given a course pack, which when I went to use, was out of date. I twice had to phone to get them to send me a new pack. It took a month from signing up to recieve my corrct course pack. This time I recived the course on CD. For the next 2 months I happily went about doing my course. I sent my assessment back the moment I finished them, and on all my assessments I got 100%. Then I got the internet. I had become a bit wary because now that I was able to email my assessment it should have been going quicker. But when I looked at the amount of time it had taken to get just to the end of the first chapter, and calculated the time it would take to complete the A+ course, it would easily go over the 14 month cut off, and I would incur extra charges. Also, for the 3 months while I was doing the course, I never once spoke to any of the tutors that were named in my course pack. I then checked on the net and found several people who had bad experiences. I also got into contact with CyberSquirrel who has been very helpful. I immediately cancelled the direct debits. Since then I have only heard from Clysdale Finance. At no point has Schidegger conacted me to ask why. For all they know I could have left the country. Not a very good college, if they cant keep track of their students. I hope to be able to avoid any hassle with Clysdale as direct debits can be cancelled at any time you wish if you feel you did no recieve the goods or services you paid for. I certainly will not be paying any more money to this terrible company, and I am now planning on taking a course with the Open University, something I wish I had done instead of signing up with this useless college. It is all very well having smug people who are already qualified and knew what course they were signing up for to tell us how daft we have been to sign up with such a bad college, but these people are professional con artists. Its what they DO! I'm pretty sure that all the nice posts in support of Schidegger are not genuine. I

[Spike]

Cybersquirrel -I know what you're going/gone through and feel your pain.

80sRockGod -Take legal advice. You can't just stop payments to a Finance company without repercussions.

10 years ago, I twice missed a car payment by one day to Renault Finance. Months later out of the blue, bailiffs called and repossessed the vehicle. They said, I had missed a third payment again by one day, even though my bank statements proved this to be false. After months of legal wrangling my solicitor had to call in my local M.P. to pull these hounds off my back.
I lost my £3000 car deposit, all the payments I had made (I was six months away from completing a 3 year contract). The vehicle and incurred legal costs, not forgetting the hassle of removing my name from the credit blacklist.

It would be very interesting to hear from students that have actually stopped Scheidegger payments and what the outcome was.

[bradkerry26]

Hi,
I agree with everything you said 80sRockGod!

I enquired in Nov 04 and in 2 months i finally got a call!!
The rep who came round sounded genuine!
I was given a course pack, which when I went to use, was out of date!
I signed up as I was told that I could only sign up there and then as there were limited spaces left!
3 months while I was doing the course, I never once spoke to any of the tutors that were named in my course pack!
I then checked on the net and found several people who had bad experiences!
I also got into contact with CyberSquirrel who has been very very helpful!

I agree with these thing you said as i was told the same and also agree the same. I'm so glad there are more people registering on this forum. Scheidegger are con artists!!!!!!!

[cybersquirrel]

Glad to see ive been of some help to you guys thanx for the comments .
I have recieved a letter from scheidegger who inform me that they would welcome outside assistance in an attempt to settle this dispute.
I am in contact with the bbc television programme watchdog who you can contact via the bbc web site ,i would suggest that for those of you experianceing problems with scheidegger that you contact watchdog as well .
I have still not had a call from scheidegger liason who made the earlier post , even though he does now have my own telephone number.

[quasifrodo]

Scheidegger only seen a handful of complaints eh? Look I know computer courses aren't cheap if they were we'd all be doing them and making money.

My Experience with them is as follows make of it what you will.

1997 I saw an ad in our local paper for opportunities to become mcse qualified and being unemployed and wanting good training invited this rep from Scheidegger round who then stayed in my house for 2 hours and pressured me into taking a course for £750 which I couldn't afford being unemployed. After he left I realised there was no way I could afford this so next day rang them and was told that there was no cooling off period and that I would have to pay the full cost of the course.

In the end i went to see my local Citizen's Advice bureau who rang them up and basically told them that they would be getting no payments from me and to collect their material from me. Case Closed.

Forward to 2 weeks back when I saw an ad for computer courses in the metro, got home checked the site which actually doesn't mention scheidegger at all.

Phonecall Wednesday asking if someone could come round to see me I asked if they were Scheidegger having remembered my earlier experience and the lady at the end of the phone said she'd heard of them but it wasn't them!!!! Thursday evening Arrives and the rep turns up and very pleasant he was shows me all the bumph and I ask the cost of which is £2.5k. I spotted the Scheidegger logo and explained my concerns and was assured that it would be either them or another company who would be teaching me and taking my money.

Surprise that after waiting for someone to come back to him with the right name to put on the cheque it turns out to be them.

I have since tried ringing them only to get continual ringing followed by a dead line signal Why am I not surprised try ringing 01582875342 UK and see if they'll answer

[webmaster]

Hi all I think some people on here are getting a bit carried away, I trained successfully with Scheidegger, yes it did cost me money but as a switched on human being, I realised I wasnt going to get a free ride!!
They dont teach NVQ'S it's Microsoft Cisco Comptia etc,
As I said in previous threads I am now working in I.T most people moaning on about the cost and the cancellation time etc etc, it sounds like they wanted the qualification but when it came to a bit of financial commitment never mind the fact that they would have to study, they suddenly lost there bottle! :eww
Also go to Google and type in complaoint for any major company such as a bank and you will see page after page of complaint links I typed in Scheidegger complaints and came across this forum and have counted about 20 complaints! not bad for I.T Trainers that must train thousands a year!!! KEEP IT REAL

[cybersquirrel]

No offence web master but i do think youve slightly missed the point .
I am more than happy to pay for and work/study if the course is up to date and worth the money.
I myself fail to see why i should pay for a course to learn methods that are out of date and no longer used .
I also object to the appaling manor that i was spocken to on the telephone and the blantent lies that the sales reps tell us .
The other point of typing in complaints for banks , a much larger number of people use banks than sign up for computer courses such as these so yes you are bound to find more complaints , thats just like saying youll find more complaints about macdonalds than you would the local burger bar parked on a street corner.

[webmaster]

The other point of typing in complaints for banks , a much larger number of people use banks than sign up for computer courses such as these so yes you are bound to find more complaints , thats just like saying youll find more complaints about macdonalds than you would the local burger bar parked on a street corner.[/QUOTE]

Cybersquirrel, After doing some background checking on Scheidegger I have found them in 11 countries, they have been in the UK since 64 and to date as global trainers they have trained over 5 million people!!
I would say that compared to a handfull of complaints isnt a bad ratio!! :thumb

[cybersquirrel]

Unfortunatly not enough people have found this forum i guess , but please tell me why they still teach old out of date methods ?. I have shown the web design course to three people at three different companys that deal with web design and all three have told me that the course is out of date , can they all be wrong ? , i dont think so .
As i stated earlier if they were teaching up to date methods i would be more content , you also have not commented about the manor that staff speak to scheidegger customers and the immoral methods used by their sales reps .
The liason guy posted his comments and i emailed him straight away saying i was more than happy to discuss both mine and the complaints other people have with him and gave him my phone number , to date this liason guy hasnt even had the deceny to reply to email or to give me a call .

[cybersquirrel]

I have a letter from scheidegger that they would welcome an outside scource to attempt to sort out the issues raised ,in this letter scheidegger do mention they would welcome either watchdog or tradeing standards.
I would ask each of you that have issues with scheidegger to write to watchdog at
BBC WATCHDOG
201 WOOD LANE
LONDON
W12-7TS

[webmaster]

Cybersquirrel, I noticed on your previous threads that you started on a A+ course, then changed it to a webdesign course and you are now doing a paramedic course???
So first fixing PC'S appealed then you decided web design now its medicine. Every one of your thread is becoming more and more bitter.
Maybe it was a case of whatever path you went down on, nothing would be good enough.
The web design course you are talking about I presume is the CIW Website Design Manager, again if you do your research go to CIW (http://www.ciwcertified.com/certifications/mcwsm.asp?comm=CND&llm=2) here you will see what this qualification is all about, just like I did when I wanted to do my MCSE.
Also what is this about Trading Standards and Watchdog :rolleyes: if their was thousands of people complaining and flooding the BBC do you not think they would have acted by now? I think 20 something complaints on a public forum maybe should tell you that majority of the people who train with Scheidegger are happily qualified and working in I.T I know I am!! :cheers

[techfreak]

Webmaster, let it go man. I am tired of hearing about you and Squirrel bickering. And you sound like an infomercial everytime you post too. Please make this your last post. If you keep posting bogus information I will ask one of the moderators to ban your account.

[webmaster]

Webmaster, let it go man. I am tired of hearing about you and Squirrel bickering. And you sound like an infomercial everytime you post too. Please make this your last post. If you keep posting bogus information I will ask one of the moderators to ban your account.

Sorry Techfreak I was under the assumption that this was a public forum, and this thread was to make comment about a particular I.T trainer, I notice that majority of posts on her are from Cybersquirrel as he has had a bad expeirence and I have had good one, what better place to debate the matter.
I apologise for coming across as an infomercial :eww forgive me for being educated, and not simply typing one liners :)

[cybersquirrel]

Webmaster , nowhere did i state that i did the a+ course , i started on the web design course but complained that due to the course being out of date and of being misguided by the sales rep i wanted to cancel the course .
Being scheidegger they wouldent let me cancel the course but made the offer for me to change course , i did not ask to change they offered .
I decided at least i would be learning something of use on another course even though i was paying for a web design course.
My paramedic course for your information . I was on the waiting list for a long time for that certanly before scheidegger came along , just a shame the paramedic course didnt come first.
I fail though to see your problem with watchdog and tradeing standards , scheidegger havent got a problem with and neither do i , so where is your problem with it .
Its called peoples cival rights to complain , and i havent been in contact for very long with watchdog and those guys are very busy , these things take time .
Lets just give them them time to see their outcome

[techfreak]

Sorry Techfreak I was under the assumption that this was a public forum, and this thread was to make comment about a particular I.T trainer, I notice that majority of posts on her are from Cybersquirrel as he has had a bad expeirence and I have had good one, what better place to debate the matter.
I apologise for coming across as an infomercial :eww forgive me for being educated, and not simply typing one liners :)

You think you are being clever, but you look like an ass.

I think both you and squirrel need to post somewhere else. I am getting tired of listening to his whining and your cynicism.

And you do not come across as being educated to me - so don't try to fool yourself.

[dang]

Closing thread. I dont want to see personal attacks on here, and how much can the horse be beaten? Since nothing meaningful/informative is being posted anymore i'm closing.