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dang
12-12-2005, 01:29 PM
Checkout our latest featured article: Blu-ray Disc considered “The New Higher Definition Format” (http://news.designtechnica.com/featured_article35.html)

Ioman
12-12-2005, 03:50 PM
I like that Blu-ray does not require you to flip the discs over to may hybrid content like HD-DVD would make you. I am also glad to hear that Blu-ray players will be backwards compatible with regular DVDs (as it should).

Of course, this goes back to Blu-ray’s original point of superiority regarding storage capability, in that there is enough storage capability on one side of the disc to hold a Blu-ray version, a standard definition movie, a completely interactive menu and a navigation system on one side of the disc. This sounds pretty cool to me.

Apparently, some of the new Blu-ray Disc players will also include Internet capability for the downloading of movie trailers, and other supplementary material such as a new commentary from a director, star or someone else associated with a particular production—all in complete HD. There could even be a “live” webcast from Cinderella’s castle that could be accessed via the Blu-ray Disc and the Internet connection. Very cool too.

It was learned that there is still no word as to whether or not Blu-ray Disc players will include component video outputs. This makes no sense to me, would they all use HDMI or DVI outputs? Most early HDTV's do not even have those connections. This is obvious to me that component video has to be in the equation.

What does scare me about Blu-ray is the copy protection. Sony clearly doesn't understand what to do in this regards: http://news.designtechnica.com/article8878.html

Lets hope they do it right this time.

ECA
12-12-2005, 06:28 PM
The sence come in at HDMI.. And copy protection.
The new format WILL NOT, let you watch 16:9 video EXCEPT under HDMI...

STUPID aint it.

Ioman
12-12-2005, 09:37 PM
HDMI and DVI do not have copy protection on them right now, thats why all of the upconverting DVD players use those outputs, only component video. Now of course that might change with the new Blu-ray players.

ECA
12-12-2005, 09:47 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP

You DONT want to see the future..

HDCP is licensed by Digital Content Protection, LLC. In addition to paying fees, licensees agree to limit the capabilities of their products. High-definition digital video content is restricted to DVD quality on non-HDCP video outputs. DVD-Audio content is restricted to DAT quality on non-HDCP digital audio outputs (analog audio outputs have no quality limits). Licensees cannot allow their devices to make copies of content, and must design their products to "effectively frustrate attempts to defeat the content protection requirements."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI


Type A HDMI is backward-compatible with the single-link Digital Visual Interface (DVI) used on modern computer monitors and graphics cards. This means that a DVI source can drive an HDMI monitor, or vice versa, by means of a suitable adapter or cable, but the audio and remote control features of HDMI will not be available. Additionally, without support for HDCP, the video quality and resolution may be downgraded by the player unit. Type B HDMI is similarly backward-compatible with dual-link DVI.


Its already being added.

neuroking
12-13-2005, 09:46 AM
You just knowt hat someone, or more likely someones, will come out with a box that strips HDCP. The thing's already been cracked five ways to bacon, now we jsut need someone that will make a multiple input selector with this handy feature included.

ECA
12-13-2005, 10:07 AM
Awww,
But place it IN the TV,and the DVD... THEN you have a BIG hack problem..
The HDTV muct recieve the HDCP signal before it will display in HD format. And ONLY the HDMI plug will give that signal.
Iv said it before about Digital.. They use it for many reasons, but mostly to regulate, and for copy protection. Its easyier to do with digital then with analog.

Ioman
12-13-2005, 12:59 PM
You just knowt hat someone, or more likely someones, will come out with a box that strips HDCP. The thing's already been cracked five ways to bacon, now we jsut need someone that will make a multiple input selector with this handy feature included.


The NeuNeo HVD2085 I just reviewed: http://reviews.designtechnica.com/review3327.html has HDCP stripped so you can upconvert video to 1080P using the component video, HDMI, or DVI connections. I think a firmware would have to be written to strip HDCP from the new Blu-ray players, OR you can just wait for a Chinese maker to manufacturer one hehe.

ECA
12-13-2005, 02:54 PM
http://www.neodigits.com/body/product/HVD2085/specs.asp

Support 1080P( 1080 Progressive Scan), 1080i, 720P, 576P and 480P output, VGA output support 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768 and 1280x1024.

HDMI pure digital interface.
Supports 1080i/720P/480P/576P/640x480/800x600/1024x768/1280x1024.

HDCP is not required for playing copyright DVD title in high definition mode.

Component, S-Video, VGA, HDMI and Composite video output.
Optical, Coaxial S/PDIF and RCA output. Support Dolby 5.1 and DTS digital output or 2 Channels analog stereo output. Built-in Dolby 5.1 / DTS decoder, 5.1 channel output.

VERY nice...

But IF the TV looks for the signal and WONT do HD, unless it gets the signal...Thats a problem.. and the NEW HDTV's (supposedly) are going to have the chip.
UNLESs you wish to use the computer monitor, insted of the TV