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ECA
01-16-2003, 12:39 PM
http://www.pczone.co.uk/news/news_story.php?id=85639
X2


http://www.pczone.co.uk/news/news_story.php?id=85659
Freelancer

llbbl
01-26-2003, 07:21 PM
Which one do you like better? The freelancer looks pretty wicked!

ECA
01-26-2003, 08:18 PM
Im thinking X2, I got more info on it.
But its NOT Multiplayer.. YET, they are working on it tho.

this is there forum..

http://www.egosoft.com/Company/index.htm

Think they be OUT in may.

IronSerif
01-27-2003, 06:26 AM
Now this is something I could get into...

Ever since the days of FreeSpace 2...I've been itching for more....such a cool game!

ECA
01-27-2003, 06:30 PM
With all the Games coming out, its a PAIN to choose 1-2 good ones.
Even with a DEMO, you cant tell for sure, as to Depth of game in the long run.

I WILL get Moo3, as its out next month.

dang
01-27-2003, 06:45 PM
I want Eve! (http://www.eve-online.com/)

senoryoshio
01-27-2003, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by dang
I want Eve! (http://www.eve-online.com/)

Word.

llbbl
01-27-2003, 08:58 PM
Well that makes three space sims that I wouldn't mind playing. Did anyone play those Homeworld games? I tested a demo from one of them and it seemed pretty cool.

ECA
01-27-2003, 09:51 PM
Homeworld is supposed to be totally cool. For a combat sim.
But complicated.

Lets see.
EVE,
X2
Moo3
Freespace.
free lancer.
Love to see ELITE 4 released, if ever.
I liked Darkspace, but its not REAL 3d, but a cool game for a pay game.
And I think there will be 3 more. Not sure what they are.

My problem is finding one as OPEN and free movement as Elite2-3. AND not paying LOTS of money for net play.

EVE looks cool but its LARGE ships, tactical fighting, and you cant do some things.
X2, you are supposed to be able to BUILD your own stations.
MOO3, is a senerio game. 2-16? players fighting over planets, and developing to win the galaxy. SP would be fine and take a few days, but MP could SUCK rotton eggs trying to get more then 2 players ONLINE all the time for DAYS>weeks. year?
Freespace is an offshoot of Home world.
Freelancer is MS. SUCK, I dont want to give them anymore money.
Elite 4 is supposed to be Space and planet based, and released on 6 platforms, which is what "I" think is slowing its release.

Iv played so many "slam bam thnk-ya mam" games, I dont know If some of theese THINKING games will do me any good. I loaded up MOO2 and ITS HARD.

Ioman
01-27-2003, 10:14 PM
Wow, X2 looks awsome! I cannot wait until I am finished building my gaming machine complete with surround sounds. This game would look sweet with a Radeon 9700PRO video card.

Archon
01-27-2003, 10:36 PM
would look sweeter on a Radeon 9900

Archon
01-27-2003, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by dang
I want Eve! (http://www.eve-online.com/)

that isnt a sim! its a MMORPG! like Earth & Beyond! (http://www.earthandbeyond.com)

ECA
01-28-2003, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by Archon


that isnt a sim! its a MMORPG! like Earth & Beyond! (http://www.earthandbeyond.com)

Only difference is WHAT the sim is about.
Life,
battle,
Developement,
What ever...

dang
01-28-2003, 01:50 PM
eve is very close to a sim..ya its massive multiplayer but it deals with trade, working for corps, building your own corp, etc.

The ony difference is you can't "win" in a sense.

However, it looks great, has a great soundtrack from what i've heard (you can download songs and stuff from their site) and looks very involved. I mean, when you can actually customize the paint on your ship to actually be unique, that is cool.

dang
01-28-2003, 04:29 PM
what about Hegemonia: Legions of Iron (http://www.monkeyreview.com/reviews/review.php?num=220)

Anyone play that?

ECA
01-28-2003, 05:27 PM
Iv heard that ALOT of the games are great at the beginning, but fail in the end, due to you having DONE everything, and there is NOTHING to go with a mega charactor.

Archon
01-28-2003, 06:25 PM
Thats the problem Earth & Beyond players are having, the game got boring after a while, but they finally now are releasing new missions and an actual storyline.

Haegemonia is an RTS.. I like Homeworld better.

dang
01-28-2003, 06:27 PM
You talking about mmporg? Well, there is plenty to do at higher levels, it just takes a lot of sitting on your butt and waiting.

However, the newer generation of games are trying to solve that problem. Games like EQ, etc in my opinion are boring as hell.

But Eve is a space online massive player game. You can do the old work for one of the typical corporations, or you can start your own. You can do typical work, or be a pirate, or mine, etc. It sounds very interesting to me. And the graphics are simply amazing.

The also have massive multiplayer first person shooters that are nothing like EQ. Its basicly thousands of people waring against each other. You gain attributes and skills but its not like a normal mmporg, because a newb could still kill someone who's high level.

Archon
01-28-2003, 06:51 PM
eve does look uberiffic, I've been watching it for some time now.

Earth & Beyond is a qutie good MMORPG... it has a free demo going on, you should check it out.

ECA
01-28-2003, 07:01 PM
I understand EVE, and I think they are going to miss out on a few things. You have probably seen me in there.
But a BIG ship has as many bad points as a small one. There are to many in there that WANT the big ships for massive distruction. They want to play the game as a Shoot-em up, NOT a sim. And the Corp structure is going to suck. Its not interdependant on anything. ONE corp is going to RULE that game in 1 year. they are going to need to tweak it, and players AINT going to like it.

And yes, I like Skills, and abilities over LEVELS. Hate seeing level 99 players scrapping allo the Newbies in a game, when there AINT anything special about them. A shot in the gut will still kill you, but NOT at level 99.

And As I have said, SCREW the graphics, I dont need 32 bit 1024x768, 128 meg graphics. I only want a good concept, good game. 16 bit would be great, low DPI.

Saw one game, using a 128 meg card and it was cashing off the HD. It was pretty. BUT it SUCKED.

ECA
01-28-2003, 07:06 PM
Until they make a Independant CPU processed video card, WITH a Upgradeable DX on it, and RAM add-on's(upto 1 gig) I REALLY see no advancement.

llbbl
01-30-2003, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by dang
what about Hegemonia: Legions of Iron (http://www.monkeyreview.com/reviews/review.php?num=220)

Anyone play that?

No but I heard good things about it. Is it out yet?

llbbl
01-30-2003, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by Archon
eve does look uberiffic, I've been watching it for some time now.

Earth & Beyond is a qutie good MMORPG... it has a free demo going on, you should check it out.

EVE looks to be more impressive. Is the demo that good? All they have for ENB is concept work. They just announced that the majority of the staff is moving to LA.

ECA
01-30-2003, 11:02 AM
on EVE all they have is concept art, movies(2?), and havent released a demo or the beta.
I would think the beginning is going to be a RUSH, but after half the persons find out that pirateing is HARD, and most of the game is based on team work rather then ONE person, half will leave. After that, it will get into the realm of MONOTany. doing alot of the same stuff, to garner more wealth to become BIGGER.
There is only going to be 2 things happening.
1. They want bigger, bigger is better.
2. The best ship for anything, for fighting, for pirateing, for cargo.

After that, 1-2 corps will try to RULE everything. A giant monopoly game. With RISK thrown in for fun.

I still wish ELITE 4 was on the horizan.

dang
01-30-2003, 12:41 PM
??

Eve is on beta 5 and is set to release next month.. what do you mean they only have concept art and movies?

ECA
01-30-2003, 02:07 PM
WELL,
Look... Do you see a demo release?
All I see is 2 movies.
Do you see anyone posting what the weapons are, the ship layouts, the power requirements, anything.
did you know you cant swapp-out the engines, for bigger/better ones.

dang
01-30-2003, 03:11 PM
demo's never come out until a game is released.

as for all the other information:
here is some beta diaries posted on their site (click on the pick to load the diaries)
http://eve-online.com/beta/diaries/

if you know german:
http://www.eve-online.dk/forum/forum.asp?ForumID=8


Also, the beta testers may be held to a NDA. I just signed up for the beta and i'll let you know if I get accepted.

One correction, its supposed to be released in March.

dang
01-30-2003, 03:17 PM
Ah..Just found a post that says there is a NDA and it wont be dropped until beta 6. that is why you can't find info on the beta.

http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/stratics/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=EVEgeneralforum&Number=11384&page=&view=&sb=&o=&what2=&selv=&vwhich=

ECA
01-30-2003, 04:50 PM
AND theyve posted a release date. AND its being released in about 1 month.
So, go pay $50 for it. Then pay $10 amonth for it. And tell us if you REALLY like it, then about 1 month later tell us if you are soured on it.
It would be nice to add, one more OPEN element to it. One that cant be controlled by HUMANS. Computer controlled governments, insted of just corps.

Another thought;
Its going to be Run under windows, by windows and with windows, and NO other OS release. The servers are windows(suck). They are still WONDERING on if they need more then 1 set of servers around the world, not just in the Europe.
Anybody want to tell me HOW dependable Windows SERVER is?? I have seen for myself. But anybody want to TELL me for sure?

dang
01-30-2003, 08:03 PM
If you are running MS Sql Server with out the latest patch, its pretty unstable. ROFL!

ECA
01-30-2003, 11:03 PM
Just that I have been hacked into MORE times when Iv been on a Windows server then others.

Archon
01-31-2003, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by TecknoGeek


EVE looks to be more impressive. Is the demo that good? All they have for ENB is concept work. They just announced that the majority of the staff is moving to LA.

EVE looks impressive, but EnB has been out for some time, has an actual moving storyline (thats cool, I think ;) rather than just walk around and trade/blow stuff up).

The way I figure is EVE looks more like a realistic space-MMORPG, EnB is just fun ;)

ENB has only concept work? Exactly where are you looking?

aye, WestWood is boom boom, shame, I liked Westwood, they did the game "Legend of Kyrandia" ;) (old school adventure gamers, oh yeh), and CnC, etc... o well

as long as they keep working on my game, and there are no player whipes when/if they move the server(s), Im fine.

Here: http://gamespot.com/gamespot/misc/dlx/eandb/index.html

llbbl
01-31-2003, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by dang
If you are running MS Sql Server with out the latest patch, its pretty unstable. ROFL!

No wonder why no one upgraded. Just goes to show why you SHOULDn't use databases developed by M$hitholes

llbbl
01-31-2003, 09:43 PM
ENB has only concept work? Exactly where are you looking?

ARchon:

Sorry must be on smoking that crack again. j/k :D I was surfing thier website and got the impression that the game had not been released yet.

From that link that you sent me that you can buy it already. Is it worth $20 + ?


http://www.mysimon.com/cobrand/gamespot/isrch/index.jhtml?c=computergames&pid=GS468718&pgid=shop&InputTitle=Earth+%26+Beyond&InputKeyword=&InputPlatform=PC&InputPub=&InputPriceMax=&_ttag=gamespot.gamespace&key=UC_20030131_223339_0415124942

Archon
02-11-2003, 02:50 AM
Crack! no! ( I have much higher standards! ;) ). EnB has definitly been out, for several months, in fact.

ECA
02-11-2003, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by Archon
Crack! no! ( I have much higher standards! ;) ). EnB has definitly been out, for several months, in fact.

E&B has been out for almost 3 months. They have added a few patches, and adding more. The game(is said) to be abit weak, but the graphics stunning.

The patches are supposed to correct game problems and add a few options.

Archon
02-11-2003, 01:48 PM
EnB was week because they didnt have any missions, it was just all about leveling up. Although it still is like that ;), they have added missions, and the game is getting interesting once more, now that there is stuff to do.

pdxflyboy
02-11-2003, 03:05 PM
did nobody play homeworld??? homeworld 2 is coming out

Archon
02-11-2003, 06:01 PM
homeworld is a great game.

ECA
02-11-2003, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by Archon
homeworld is a great game.

I hear Homeworld is more a Battle stratigy game.

Im looking more for a ELITE2-3 with maybe Building capable.
I heard they stopped on ELITE4, did a few things, and have Re-started it again. Only problem with it, is that they WISH to release it to 6 OS environments, windows, linux, mac, and consoles. Thats whats taking Soooo Long. I KNOW that will have 1,000,000(at least) sold the day of release. Elite2 and 3(iv been told) sold OVER 100,000,000, and that was LONG ago.

Archon
02-11-2003, 08:42 PM
homeworld isnt more of a strategy game, it IS a strategy game.

llbbl
02-11-2003, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by dang
If you are running MS Sql Server with out the latest patch, its pretty unstable. ROFL!

M$ should be thrown in the Slammer for not making it a mandatory upgrade, as in free, earlier.

ECA
02-11-2003, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Archon
homeworld isnt more of a strategy game, it IS a strategy game.

Moo3 is about to be released also. Have you l=played moo1-2.

llbbl
02-16-2003, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Archon
eve does look uberiffic, I've been watching it for some time now.

Earth & Beyond is a qutie good MMORPG... it has a free demo going on, you should check it out.

Ok I downloaded it. Now how do I get it working? It asks for a code. I don't have the code for the demo.

Were you going to get the buddy code ? So its $15 per month, with that one time fee. That isn't too bad.

I tried to start trillian tonight and it wouldn't sign on. I am going to try and fix it in the morning. PM me is the best way. Email is not orangized yet.

Archon
02-16-2003, 08:37 PM
it shouldnt be asking for a key, the demo, that is.

aye, the buddy reg code is $15, comes with a free month.

then its $12.99 thereafter. but get me on IM when you fix it, I'll set ya up good ;)

RageSlave
02-17-2003, 09:24 AM
I'm trialing this game today. Freelancer is looking mighty good also.

RageSlave
02-17-2003, 09:39 AM
What Galaxy?

Archon
02-17-2003, 11:38 AM
Andromeda

llbbl
02-19-2003, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by RageSlave
I'm trialing this game today. Freelancer is looking mighty good also.

What is your name on it? I am Protiquest, the dutiful trader. :D

Archon
02-19-2003, 12:15 PM
Rageslave is "Rageslave" ;) the ugly Progen Sentinel.

llbbl
02-23-2003, 08:21 PM
I am going to pay the monthly fee for that other game I was telling you about. I can't afford both and I like that one better.

Archon
02-25-2003, 11:44 AM
which other one?