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DizzyG 10-18-2002 10:58 AM

Opera Web Browser
 
I don't know how many of you know what opera is or use it, but I highly suggest checking it out. I started using it on my linux box because I hated mozilla and netscape. I quickly replaced it as the default web browser on most of my computers.

let me highlight some of the key features and explain how they work.
top of the list: press f12 when in opera (I suggest running it in window within windows mode, that's the default anyway) and you'll see a menu about all sorts of things. Right there at the top are three options:
1. accept pop ups
2. refuse pop ups
3. accept and launch behind current window

I almost always have mine set to refuse popups. If a page doesn't seem to be working or clicking has no reaction, I just press f12 and accept them for that short time. So long x10 cam ads.

Right up there near the top is the ability to change the browser's advertised version. You can advertise yourself as IE, netscape or opera, for those pages developed for specific browsers, on the fly, very cool.

right under this on my list is "mouse gestures". That's right, with your right mouse button you can do all sorts of things without opening menus or moving your mouse to the top of the screen to click the icon. Here are some of the ones that I use,
press the right mouse button and hold throughout the motion for all of these

- drag straight down and release -- opens a new window within your opera session
- drag to the left and release -- back
- drag to the right and release -- forward
- make an L shape and relase -- close current window
- hold down right button and use scroll wheel -- toggle between windows of opera.

It's the fastest, most effiecient browser I've used. At the bottom of the screen you'll see the typical images loaded, but also percent downloaded, avg speed and other nice goodies to look at while you wait for pages to load. The download manager is very nice as well.
Just thought you should all check it out, they have versions for linux, windows and mac, I've used them all and they all rock.
Diz

http://www.opera.com

Ioman 10-18-2002 11:07 AM

I am dowloading it now as I type this message. I assume that you still need to pay for the complete version of the browser? I curently use a program called "zero Pop up 3.1" which works great with every browser I use. The thing I like about it is that if you are clicking on a link which you know whill open a new window, just click on the link twice and the window will show up.

Just out of curiosity, how does Designtechnica look through Opera? I think we used to have issues with the older versions. I know that Netscape 4.0 will not even load the site completely. We get complaints once in a while about that.

It really looks like Opera is trying to add some features to its browser which will seperate it from the rest of the pack....adding pop up killers and mouse features is a super huge bonus in my book and something every browser should have. I will try it out today and post what I think. I do like the new Netscape 7.0 too.

DizzyG 10-18-2002 11:27 AM

Opera loads everything I've tried just fine, and when it doesn't I just press f12 and change my browser to identify as something else and that almost always does it. I have no problems with it, it's free to try (full version) and if you want to buy it you can (are supposed to). I have yet to try the e'mail support, but am currently using evolution from ximian.org on my linux boxes. I'm sick of windows, I don't like the clunkyness of osx, so I use windows for games and linux for almost everything else. Not that I don't use microsoft for anything, I wish I could but linux isn't quite there yet.

Anyway, everything on your site that I've tried looks perfect.
Diz

dang 10-18-2002 02:42 PM

Have you tried redhat 8? I had a server's vid and harddrive die on me here at work so I plopped on rh8 on the new drive.

There is on feature I'm really impressed with. You know Windows XP autonotification about when there are updates available? RedHat 8 has something similiar now.

In the systray, if there is a critical update a red orb w/ an blinking exclamation mark appears. You everything is cool and update, a green orb w/ a checkmark, if updates are available, but not critical then a different type of graphic is displayed (haven't seen it but remember reading about it during the install)

You click on the notification icon and up pops a window telling you what updates are available. click the Up2Date button will launch the Up2Date app which will present the updates, with descriptions for each. You choose which ones to install and it downloads and installs, and it works. :)

I did a kernel upgrade this way today, and it actually worked. I couldn't believe it.

Ioman 10-18-2002 03:50 PM

it is sad when an auto update feature is considered "impressive". I like Redhat, but until its consumer friendly, it's not touching my system here. Maybe if I have another system to play with.

dang 10-18-2002 05:18 PM

redhat8 is very user friendly. linux is pretty user friendly for newbies if you install X windows and KDE or Gnome (which by default is installed.)

RedHat8 is by far probably the most user friendly linux OS i have seen. Before that, Suse8 was my fav.

-dan

Ioman 10-19-2002 10:44 AM

I have been trying to install Opera but it keeps freezing up during the Java part of the installation. :(

So far I am not impressed....I will let you know if I get it installed.

Ioman 10-19-2002 10:50 AM

Ok, I finally got the Opera web browser installed, I had to install it without Java support in order to get it to finish.. So far it is OK. I do not care for the banner up in the right hand corner, nor do I like the Amazon and eBay.com quick search fields. The browser also does not load the forums page of Designtechnica correctly, moving the "reply" and the "post thread" buttons to the left side of the field versus the right side where it belongs.

Is Opera still based off of Mosaic like it used to be? It has that Mosaic feel to it. I will still continue to use it so I can get a feel for it. I actually like Netscape 7 better at this point in time, but let me use some of the Opera features before I decide.

llbbl 10-19-2002 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dang
redhat8 is very user friendly. linux is pretty user friendly for newbies if you install X windows and KDE or Gnome (which by default is installed.)

RedHat8 is by far probably the most user friendly linux OS i have seen. Before that, Suse8 was my fav.

-dan


Mandrake is supposed to be the most user friendly but people say that it always seems like it isn't working right. I had some minor issues when I had installed it for the first time, but I think this was just because it was the first LInux install I ever did.

It seems that RedHat is what its all about if you are into Linux.

I have seen it being installed on other systems and it doesn't seem to be that big a deal.

llbbl 10-19-2002 06:58 PM

I like Mozilla!!
 
I don't understand why Dizzy doesn't like Mozilla. I agree that Netscape 7.0 is mega bloated and slower than a trip to the DMV, but the open source clone of Netscape is way better than the AOL version.

The mouse gestures sounds pretty cool. Maybe the Zilla' could start working on somethig similar.

What I didn't like about Opera was that it cost money to get rid of that damn AD at the top of the brower. I had no problems installing it on a ME machine. I don't run that now, but I think that is what I had when I tried it out.

I think you can find hacks for it, but we all know that isn't the right thing to do. ;)

I think zilla is the best browser out and is what I use in place of IE. 1.2 is the newest release.

http://www.mozilla.org/releases/


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